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White vs Red, partner deals:
♠KJT
♥
♦AK98xx
♣KTxx
Pa 1♥ 2♦ 4♥
Pa Pa ???
What do you do now? What would double mean? What are your other options?
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What's your bid? And what does it mean?
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Posted 2009-December-03, 02:41
wyman, on 2012-May-04, 09:48, said:
Also, he rates to not have a heart void when he leads the ♥3.
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Posted 2009-December-03, 03:39
I double, which is for takeout, typically showing 3163, 3064, etc. It's unlikely to have fewer than six diamonds, because with 4153 or 3154 I'd have doubled the opening bid. It tends not to have four spades, because with 4162 or 4063 I might just bid 4♠.
The only other possibilities are:
- Pass, which seems very conservative
- 4NT, showing clubs but with a two-card disparity. That's less flexible, in that it doesn't allow for playing 4♠ or 4♥x. I might bid 4NT with a more minor-suit oriented hand like xxx - AKJxxx KQJx
The only other possibilities are:
- Pass, which seems very conservative
- 4NT, showing clubs but with a two-card disparity. That's less flexible, in that it doesn't allow for playing 4♠ or 4♥x. I might bid 4NT with a more minor-suit oriented hand like xxx - AKJxxx KQJx
... that would still not be conclusive proof, before someone wants to explain that to me as well as if I was a 5 year-old. - gwnn
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Posted 2009-December-03, 04:01
gnasher, on Dec 3 2009, 11:39 AM, said:
I double, which is for takeout, typically showing 3163, 3064, etc. It's unlikely to have fewer than six diamonds, because with 4153 or 3154 I'd have doubled the opening bid. It tends not to have four spades, because with 4162 or 4063 I might just bid 4♠.
What do you do with hand AQ xxx AQxxx KJx? I would start with overcall and want to double now. But if you double in first round with this type of hand then no problems
Passed partner helps here because you know that partner is unlikely to hold long or good enough spades to let opponents to stab your hand.
So 4NT to show 2 places to play and emphasis on longer ♦
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Posted 2009-December-03, 05:18
I don't think double shows more or less this either, 6322 or 6421 are more likelly IMO.
I still double though. But I am not fully sure I wouldn't had doubled the round before.
I still double though. But I am not fully sure I wouldn't had doubled the round before.
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Posted 2009-December-03, 05:34
Double, takeout of course. Seems like a wtp.
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Posted 2009-December-03, 05:50
Pass. Pard passed twice now... We can't make game and I'm not into guessing sacrifices with such a defensive hand.
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Posted 2009-December-03, 05:59
suokko, on Dec 3 2009, 11:01 AM, said:
What do you do with hand AQ xxx AQxxx KJx? I would start with overcall and want to double now. But if you double in first round with this type of hand then no problems
I'd overcall 2♦ and then pass 4♥. Partner can bid his own hand. If he's got xxxx x Kxx AQxxx he should have acted already.
Fluffy said:
I don't think double shows more or less this either, 6322 or 6421 are more likelly IMO.
I agree that these shapes are possible, but I'm surprised that you think them more likely. How much would you need to bid again with a 6322 shape here?
... that would still not be conclusive proof, before someone wants to explain that to me as well as if I was a 5 year-old. - gwnn
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Posted 2009-December-03, 06:20
C-K and S-KJ behind opener and D-A to lead. Pass and defend.
Hate quitting with 6-suit and void their suit, but what likely makes? 4H raise won the auction as intended, will 4H win the scoring?
Hate quitting with 6-suit and void their suit, but what likely makes? 4H raise won the auction as intended, will 4H win the scoring?
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Posted 2009-December-03, 07:04
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Posted 2009-December-03, 07:07
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Posted 2009-December-03, 07:39
Smack The Pony.
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We should always assume 2/1 unless otherwise stated, because:
- If the original poster didn't bother to state his system, that means that he thinks it's obvious what he's playing. The only people who think this are 2/1 players.
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Posted 2009-December-03, 12:57
OleBerg, on Dec 3 2009, 08:39 AM, said:
Smack The Pony.
That sounds kind of dirty.
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Posted 2009-December-03, 14:46
gnasher, on Dec 3 2009, 11:59 AM, said:
suokko, on Dec 3 2009, 11:01 AM, said:
What do you do with hand AQ xxx AQxxx KJx? I would start with overcall and want to double now. But if you double in first round with this type of hand then no problems
I'd overcall 2♦ and then pass 4♥. Partner can bid his own hand. If he's got xxxx x Kxx AQxxx he should have acted already.
Fluffy said:
I don't think double shows more or less this either, 6322 or 6421 are more likelly IMO.
I agree that these shapes are possible, but I'm surprised that you think them more likely. How much would you need to bid again with a 6322 shape here?
18 or so I guess.
The reason why the offshape double is more likelly (to me) is because with perfect shape (3163) I prefer to double the round before.
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Posted 2009-December-04, 02:09
kenrexford, on Dec 3 2009, 08:57 PM, said:
OleBerg, on Dec 3 2009, 08:39 AM, said:
Smack The Pony.
That sounds kind of dirty.
It was an english satire-show, maybe as old as the '90.
http://www.youtube.c...h?v=1DgPDaATqko
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Best Regards Ole Berg
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We should always assume 2/1 unless otherwise stated, because:
- If the original poster didn't bother to state his system, that means that he thinks it's obvious what he's playing. The only people who think this are 2/1 players.
Gnasher
Do not underestimate the power of the dark side. Or the ninth trumph.
Best Regards Ole Berg
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We should always assume 2/1 unless otherwise stated, because:
- If the original poster didn't bother to state his system, that means that he thinks it's obvious what he's playing. The only people who think this are 2/1 players.
Gnasher
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