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#1 User is offline   gwnn 

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Posted 2009-December-08, 19:41

Kxx
JTx
AQ9x
xxx

1♠ from the right and then:

1♠-p-2♣-4♦
4♥-???

partner is not usually insane with his preempts.

w/r imps.
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Posted 2009-December-08, 20:03

I will bid, 5♦! Partner already made them guess heavily, I don't need to go nuts. No more blackwood, no more cuebids, just guessing at their own values. They may not even know what suit they belong in.
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Posted 2009-December-08, 20:18

gwnn, on Dec 8 2009, 08:41 PM, said:

Kxx
JTx
AQ9x
xxx

1♠ from the right and then:

1♠-p-2♣-4♦
4♥-???

partner is not usually insane with his preempts.

w/r imps.

you need to choose between 6♦ and 5♦. I would choose to 5 to make it hard for them to get to 6
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Posted 2009-December-08, 20:50

5D then pass throughout.
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Posted 2009-December-08, 22:54

5♦ -- 6♦ risks a reflexive 6M, which might make...
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Posted 2009-December-08, 22:57

only 5D
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Posted 2009-December-09, 04:41

I'll join the "obvious 5♦" choir. Partner might have looked at the vulnerabilety too.
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Posted 2009-December-09, 10:56

5♦. Seems wrong to sell out to 4 of a major and I'd like to take away their cuebid.
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Posted 2009-December-09, 23:35

The classic plan is too bid 5D and defend hoping they guess wrong. The alternative plan is to pass and sac if they bid 6M with confidence (after showing a D void). Since the chance of them having a cold 6 is fairly high and my save rate to cost -800 ill pass.
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Posted 2009-December-10, 08:44

Pass. I usually like 5♦ in situations like this because it makes them guess, but if their suit is hearts then responder already has to guess. It could easily go p p p making 6.

Even if the suit is spades, opener might not be able to tell preference from a fit and might not push on to 6.

I will save over 6 though if opener shows a diamond void.
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Posted 2009-December-10, 10:27

Scoring: IMP

7d is 1100


i bid 5♦ LHO bid 6♦ and they chalked up +1430
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Posted 2009-December-10, 10:44

gwnn, on Dec 10 2009, 11:27 AM, said:

Scoring: IMP

7d is 1100


i bid 5♦ LHO bid 6♦ and they chalked up +1430

last time I checked that was less than 2210 :)
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Posted 2009-December-10, 10:56

If the point is to save at the 7 level with Kxx of spades in my hand, I concede, too tough.
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Posted 2009-December-10, 11:01

No, there's no point, I just wanted to show what happened in the hand. And for the people who are curious and lazy I gave the result for a possible 7 level sac. I would never have dreamt of 7/6 on this hand
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Posted 2009-December-10, 11:05

OleBerg, on Dec 9 2009, 04:41 AM, said:

I'll join the "obvious 5♦" choir. Partner might have looked at the vulnerabilety too.

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Posted 2009-December-10, 11:07

did your team gain the one imp they deserved?
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Posted 2009-December-10, 11:21

haha, no, this was IMP pairs, we got -28 across the field imps, -1460 would have been -39, -1100 would have been +70. (16 tables)
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Posted 2009-December-11, 07:47

7♥ is laydown, so why push them?
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Posted 2009-December-11, 08:25

I just asked everybody what they would have bid at the table. I did not say there were right or wrong answers. Similarly, I did not say there were answers that would lead to a huge amount of IMPs either way.
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