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How to bid this hand?

#1 User is offline   serapuff 

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Posted 2010-May-08, 00:32

K6
AKQ1063
AK652

white/red, 4th seat

Bidding goes:

pass-pass-2C*-X (you)
3C - pass - 4C - 4NT (showing 2 suits)
pass - 5D- pass - ?

How would you bid this?

* 2C shows 5+ clubs 10-15
3C is non constructive
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Posted 2010-May-08, 00:52

Agree with the bidding so far and would bid 5NT (choice of slams) now.

Slam is not certain but I cannot pass when 12 tricks are likely and I haven't shown the full strength of my hand so can't expect partner to bid more than 5 on most hands where slam is good. A grand slam try is too much - partner is quite unlikely to have the A and he could well accept without it given that he has shown nothing.

Partner has better diamonds than hearts, so 5NT suggests five diamonds and a six card major, allowing us to play 6 opposite for example xxxxx xxx Qxx xx. 5 also suggests this hand type but slightly weaker and is a non-forcing slam try, maybe the same hand without the Q would bid 5.
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Posted 2010-May-08, 05:20

Tough problem. I wonder what 5 by partner would be, maybe 4234 suggesting he prefers spades if I had spades and diamonds (assuming 3 over 2 shows both majors)? If that's the case then logically partner doesn't have spade length so maybe he's 3244 or 4144 or 2254? Think I'm just gonna bid 6.
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Posted 2010-May-08, 05:50

I still dislike these offshape doubles, we will never come close to describing our hand.

4D if played as leaping michaels or
6H with no special agreements.
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Posted 2010-May-08, 08:08

gwnn, on May 8 2010, 06:50 AM, said:

I still dislike these offshape doubles, we will never come close to describing our hand.

4D if played as leaping michaels or
6H with no special agreements.

Double-jumping to 4D seems like an unnecessary waste of valuable space ( eventho it is much better than the X , then 4NT ).

Here is a simplified 2-suiter system I learned some years ago for a weak-2D open, but applying it to the special 2C! open (= to a real suit, opening values ) :

4C = both Majors
3H-jump = H/D
3S-jump = S/D

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With the OP bidding, where partner shows a preference to Diam, I'd have to go with 6D ...... unfortunately leaving the K x vulnerable to an opening lead assault .
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Posted 2010-May-08, 08:54

DAPO/Super MAF uses 2S as 2-suited not Spades, not clubs.
Then Q-bid shows slam try/force, even repeat Q-bid here.
Partner evaluates very well after that description.
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