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Posted 2010-October-25, 03:41


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1♣ 16+ unbalanced or 18+ balanced

1♦ 0-7

Is anyone up for 3♦ here?
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Posted 2010-October-25, 05:13

Opposite 0-7, I'll stay as low as I can in ♦.
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Posted 2010-October-25, 05:33

Why should I bid 3♦?

The opponents have passed over 1♣ and over 1♣-1♦. Surely they might still get back in, but I'm not going to do anything drastic to prevent it. This looks more like it is tending to be a misfitting hand where partner has some length in the major suits.

If 3♦ should be intended as a value bid with extras then I don't have any.
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Posted 2010-October-25, 05:40

2♦ is a good bid so I will make it.
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Posted 2010-October-25, 15:28

2♦ wtp

Don't see how anything else makes sense.
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Posted 2010-October-25, 15:44

View Postgwnn, on 2010-October-25, 05:40, said:

2♦ is a good bid so I will make it.


I am confused ...

How does the second part of the sentence follow from the first?
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Posted 2010-October-25, 19:40

Where are the majors??
Do opponents have Major overcall MM takeout?
Get up on them 3D --but they didn't bid.
Is partner sitting with 5S+5H?
Let them find M-fit at 2M over 2D, then ding them on misfit if they 3M? I try this.
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Posted 2010-October-25, 22:31

I play 3♦ as GF here, but that could depend on what your rules for bidding are.

It's nice that I play precision so a 2♦ rebid explains exactly what I have in my hand!
I once yelled at my partner for discarding the 'wrong' card when he was subjected to a squeeze that I allowed by giving the wrong count with too high a card. Now he's allowed to pitch aces when the opponents have the king in the dummy. At trick 2. When he could have followed suit. And blame me.

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Posted 2010-October-25, 23:09

View Postkayin801, on 2010-October-25, 22:31, said:

I play 3♦ as GF here, but that could depend on what your rules for bidding are.


Good point. We were playing a big artificial forcing 1♥ rebid.
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True but I know Standard American and what better reason could I have for playing Precision? - Hideous Hog
Bidding is an estimation of probabilities SJ Simon

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Posted 2010-October-26, 00:16

3D seems bizarre unless you play it as preemptive.

Please don't post a simulation that shows that after partner shows 0-7 there are more hands that want to preempt than hands that make game.
Please note: I am interested in boring, bog standard, 2/1.

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Posted 2010-October-26, 01:34

2♦ is obvious
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Posted 2010-October-26, 03:03

If I had any shame in my life, I'd be ashamed to admit that 3♦ would occur to me. But I'd rejct it. Turn the the ♣Q into a spade, and a small spade into a club, and I'll be there.
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Posted 2010-October-26, 03:54

View PostCascade, on 2010-October-25, 23:09, said:

Good point. We were playing a big artificial forcing 1♥ rebid.

So what would 3♦ show?
... that would still not be conclusive proof, before someone wants to explain that to me as well as if I was a 5 year-old. - gwnn
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