The North player was a beginner (first time playing) to explain the bidding. The South and West players were advanced players. The lead was the ten of spades, and East won the trick with the Ace (do you agree with this play?). If you do take the Ace, what do you lead next?
Should this be found? How easy is the defense?
#1
Posted 2011-January-19, 17:47
The North player was a beginner (first time playing) to explain the bidding. The South and West players were advanced players. The lead was the ten of spades, and East won the trick with the Ace (do you agree with this play?). If you do take the Ace, what do you lead next?
Never tell the same lie twice. - Elim Garek on the real moral of "The boy who cried wolf"
#2
Posted 2011-January-19, 18:32
#3
Posted 2011-January-20, 04:01
karlson, on 2011-January-19, 18:32, said:
I am not convinced.
If you switch to ♥ and partner has a ♦ entry, you will almost always come to at least 2 ♥ tricks, a ♦ trick and the two black aces for one down. Even if declarer has 4 ♦ tricks he will have to develop a trick in ♣ eventually and he will probably go after ♦ first. If he first plays a ♣ from the table, which you duck of course, you are certainly not worse of than if you had switched to ♣ yourself.
Since declarer may have 2♥ stoppers, you can not afford to wait.
Switch to a small ♥. The contract will almost certainly go down with only one entry in partner's hand
Rainer Herrmann
#4
Posted 2011-January-20, 04:39
rhm, on 2011-January-20, 04:01, said:
That's true as long as we don't immediately give up an 8th or 9th trick by switching to hearts when declarer has the Q. A club might also work when passive defense is required. For instance imagine KJxx Txx AKQx Kx, or KJxx Qx Axx KQJx (declarer wins the heart plays clubs and eventually strip squeezes us out of the HK.).
Obviously I can also construct hands where heart is right (KJxx Qx AKxx KQx seems to be what you're afraid of, KJxx xx AKQx KQx is also something plausible). It seems like a little bit of a guess.
Honestly none of these hands give partner much of a double and I'm as aggressive as anyone at doubling here!
#5
Posted 2011-January-20, 05:19
karlson, on 2011-January-20, 04:39, said:
Obviously I can also construct hands where heart is right (KJxx Qx AKxx KQx seems to be what you're afraid of, KJxx xx AKQx KQx is also something plausible). It seems like a little bit of a guess.
Honestly none of these hands give partner much of a double and I'm as aggressive as anyone at doubling here!
My congratulations, quite ingenious constructions, creating a strip end play in hearts against East.
But they have little to do with your original reasoning for switching to ♣.
On the first layout my guess is that very few would lead anything but a club and few would double.
On the second declarer would have to play with mirrors to succeed
The trouble with your constructions is that partner does not hold an entry, which I think he should have given his double and this is certainly at least very likely.
I still think a ♥ is indicated and in my opinion and it is not close.
Rainer Herrmann
#6
Posted 2011-January-20, 05:56
On balance, I guess Rainer is right as there are many hands where declarer doesn't have a choice and has to attack diamonds first (as playing diamonds first gives him an entry back to dummy).
#7
Posted 2011-January-20, 07:37
Even an on-lead game double suggests dummy's first bid suit.
#8
Posted 2011-January-20, 10:20
If I am somehow forced to take the first spade, my continuation will be a crude ♣A, to get a signal from partner. If he encourages I continue, if not, it is a heart. (The arguments are the same as above.)
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#9
Posted 2011-January-20, 10:56
- hrothgar
#10
Posted 2011-January-20, 13:03
Duck the 1st trick and try to get more information.
What happens then?
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#11
Posted 2011-January-20, 19:26
East4Evil ♥ sohcahtoa 4ever!!!!!1
#12
Posted 2011-January-21, 01:13
kayin801, on 2011-January-20, 19:26, said:
Yes, indeed, I didn't post the whole hand yet because when I reconstructed it from my memory West didn't have a double (in my opinion). But remember this was an informal game among friends.
Never tell the same lie twice. - Elim Garek on the real moral of "The boy who cried wolf"
#13
Posted 2011-January-21, 07:06
T9
xx
QTxxx
QJTx maybe QT9x
p can tell you probably have 4 hearts so opps have no suits to run
While speculative it is not w/o merit to X 3n on this auction.
Of course the more featherweight your 1s opening might be
the more speculative the X becomes.
I agree with ducking spade and encouraging. If I get in first
I will lead a small spade. This gives declarer nothing they cannot
get for themselves and caters to P having T9.