gwnn, on 2011-January-28, 13:07, said:
just because we don't have aces doesn't mean they are going to make, in my little opinion. if partner has a penalty pass of 1♣ I'm quite happy to defend. Also if they run somewhere we're likely to murder them. to me it looks like we have quite a bit of defence against non-clubs, and partner will have good defence against clubs
I am not married to the 4450 example, but even in that case it is not hard to construct a hand where partner will pass out a double of 1♣ and we will do better playing the hand in another suit (quite possibly at the game level) than we will do defending 1♣x.