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#1 User is offline   Mozza 

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Posted 2011-January-23, 10:44

IMPS Favourable

You hold

♠A103
♥QJ9642
♦A
♣A63

1H: 1S

Playing ACOL (4 card majors and a 12-14 NT), what's your rebid?

Would your answer be different if
(i) playing 5 card majors; or

(ii) vulnerable at IMPs?
Thanks.
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Posted 2011-January-23, 14:54

3♥, any other bid will mis-describe the hand more IMO... I could try a heavy 2♥, but I think this is a bit much.
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Posted 2011-January-23, 15:24

2♣.

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Posted 2011-January-24, 01:14

Hi,

playing Acol - 3H.

Playing 5 card major, and a more american style, I may just bid 2H,
vulnerability and format does not play a big role.

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Posted 2011-January-24, 01:33

Playing Acol, 2H. The hearts are not good enough for 3H, and 2C is awful. 2S is a possibility.
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Posted 2011-January-24, 02:05

3H.

I'll leave 2C to experts like Phil. I don't see any reason to underbid with 2H.
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Posted 2011-January-24, 08:42

Well, 3♥ for me. Shape/strength before honor placement. ALWAYS.
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Posted 2011-January-24, 10:32

2♣ is the sort of bid I've had a lot of success with in an acol context, but we almost never pass 2♣. The problem with 3♥ and to some extent 2♥ is that you'll play in ♥ when you should be in ♠ a lot. 1♥-1♠-2♣-2♥-2♠ showing 3 spades and extras is reasonably descriptive (OK, it's more likely to be 3514, but it's close) and stands a chance of getting you to the right place.
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Posted 2011-January-24, 20:55

2♣ for me, opening 1 and jumping to 3 on the same suit is % 100 related with suit quality for me.
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Posted 2011-January-25, 07:44

If you play FLANNERY(I DO), this is a 3♠ rebid. Take away the ♥Q and you rebid 2♠. The upside of flannery is
not so much the 2♦ opening, but the ability to raise with only 3♠ knowing partner has 5+♠ or 4 good ones.
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Posted 2011-January-25, 11:13

Playing a weak notrump means there's more case for 2♠, because partner will expect an unbalanced hand or a strong notrump, but I think this is too good

I'd bid 2♣. 3♥ is atypical in three ways: the hearts are weak, it's very suitable for playing in spades, and it's a bit light on values. I could live with two of those, but three is too many.
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Posted 2011-January-25, 12:33

Thanks for the replies. I rebid an admittedly conservative 2H. The hand is improved by the spade fit so I thought about 3H but I didn't like the stiff A and weak H suit.

Either the temporising 2C (I now better understand the merits of this bid. I did fleetingly consider it at the time but was concerned that it didn't get across either of the 2 main features of my hand - (i) the 6th heart; (ii) the 3 card spade holding) or 3H should get you to the cold game we (I) missed - partner held

♠KQxx
♥10xx
♦Kxxx
♣ xx.
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Posted 2011-January-25, 15:16

View PostMozza, on 2011-January-25, 12:33, said:

Thanks for the replies. I rebid an admittedly conservative 2H. The hand is improved by the spade fit so I thought about 3H but I didn't like the stiff A and weak H suit.

Either the temporising 2C (I now better understand the merits of this bid. I did fleetingly consider it at the time but was concerned that it didn't get across either of the 2 main features of my hand - (i) the 6th heart; (ii) the 3 card spade holding) or 3H should get you to the cold game we (I) missed - partner held

♠KQxx
♥10xx
♦Kxxx
♣ xx.

Why 1♠..you are only worth 1 bid..2♥seems clear.
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Posted 2011-January-25, 15:47

agree with bob
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Posted 2011-January-25, 16:24

View PostBobElliott, on 2011-January-25, 15:16, said:

Why 1♠..you are only worth 1 bid..2♥seems clear.

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Posted 2011-January-25, 16:28

I think 1♠ is the normal action playing 4-card majors. Both actions may lead to a 4-3 fit, but 2♥ risks losing a 4-4 fit when opener is in the 15-16 range.
... that would still not be conclusive proof, before someone wants to explain that to me as well as if I was a 5 year-old. - gwnn
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