atb - any?
#1
Posted 2011-September-01, 01:09
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#2
Posted 2011-September-01, 01:29
#3
Posted 2011-September-01, 02:48
JLOGIC, on 2011-September-01, 01:29, said:
This, and in fact with AK/A and 3 trumps I think you're close to doing more than this, give partner Qx/x or even xx/x rather than Q/xx in the pointies and slam isn't bad given that the points are probably where you want them.
#4
Posted 2011-September-01, 02:57
JLOGIC, on 2011-September-01, 01:29, said:
This. North was probably planning on making a limit raise before the interference. Time to accept for partner who has shown strength enough to accept a limit raise.
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#5
Posted 2011-September-01, 06:26
Responders 2nd bid is often where things go wrong.
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#6
Posted 2011-September-01, 07:04
"gwnn" said:
hanp does not always mean literally what he writes.
#7
Posted 2011-September-01, 07:21
1♥-1♠
3♣-3♥
which is stronger than 4♥ because we are in a game force.
But here, South's 3♣ is not forcing. It is what South will have to bid with 15-17 points. With a GF hand, South would have to cuebid, or maybe double or a jump.
#8
Posted 2011-September-01, 09:09
helene_t, on 2011-September-01, 07:21, said:
1♥-1♠
3♣-3♥
which is stronger than 4♥ because we are in a game force.
Even on this uncontested auction I would play 4♥ as the limit raise (and presumably partner doesn't pass with his game-force-opposite-a-six-count). You need 3♥ as possibly just a preference with 2 hearts, so it can't be stronger than 4♥.
#9
Posted 2011-September-01, 13:08
#10
Posted 2011-September-01, 14:00
helene_t, on 2011-September-01, 07:21, said:
1♥-1♠
3♣-3♥
which is stronger than 4♥ because we are in a game force.
I am also in the camp of playing 4♥ as a limit raise 3 card hand as semeai said. I hate the fast arrival rule here. 3♥ should be flexible and responder should be available to make this bid with only 2♥ for obvious reasons and not neccesarilly showing a good/better hand than 4♥.
Same goes for me if the auction was
1♥--1NT
3m--3♥ vs 4♥ but here it is easier for us because we dont play 1M-2M constructive. Thus i can not have a hand which bids 1NT with 3 card fit unless it has 10-12 hcp. 4♥ is limit while 3♥ is 2 cards and not sure what game we can play.
You can apply the same logic over 1♠ response too, 1♠ response with 3 card ♥ fit, showed some strength upto some degree, since he could raise right away with weaker hands, or his later 2♥ bid will never be recieved as a real support. But overall this is just a style matter, some think 3 card fit with less than 8 hcps can be delayed or hidden and there is no problem with that. I just dont like it, although i have to admit that style (constructive 1M-2M) is hard for opponents when the 3 card fit is given after 1♠ or 1NT response, because opponents are less keen to balance since they also don't know if u have a fit or playing on a prefered of 2 suits.
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#11
Posted 2011-September-01, 14:07
MrAce, on 2011-September-01, 14:00, said:
jlall disagreed with this. I am trying to find the post where he explained why.
http://www.bridgewin...er-a-jump-shift here most people agreed with MrAce and semeai.
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#13
Posted 2011-September-01, 16:02
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"Well to be perfectly honest, in my humble opinion, of course without offending anyone who thinks differently from my point of view, but also by looking into this matter in a different perspective and without being condemning of one's view's and by trying to make it objectified, and by considering each and every one's valid opinion, I honestly believe that I completely forgot what I was going to say."
#14
Posted 2011-September-01, 16:05
Partner should assume this is in support of ♣ but since we do this often, my pard will allow me room to clarify that it's ♥'s.
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