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#1 User is offline   jules101 

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Posted 2011-October-03, 06:33

Two hands where opps open 3m non vuln, next hand doubles and third hand raises to 5m (could be good expecting to make, or preemptive - you are on a guess!)

What action do you take in 4th seat and why?


Hand 1:




Hand 2:




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Posted 2011-October-03, 08:41

hand 1 is close but I would bid 5♥

hand 2 needs a lot from partner I would take the low road and pass
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Posted 2011-October-03, 08:50

View Postpooltuna, on 2011-October-03, 08:41, said:

hand 1 is close but I would bid 5♥

hand 2 needs a lot from partner I would take the low road and pass

Agree, if I should be bidding over 5 to make on hand 2, partner will double again.
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Posted 2011-October-03, 09:07

I would bid five hearts on the first hand, but think it is minimum. The vulnerability increases the chance that partner has a proper double and the opposition make take a save to six clubs.

Second hand is an easy pass and I'd pass a second double too.

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Posted 2011-October-03, 16:58

1-Dbl

2-Pass

Singleton/doubleton vs singleton is discouraging
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Posted 2011-October-03, 17:22

Double on the first and pass on the second.

I really don't like 5♥ on the first one. It seems quite likely to turn a plus into a minus, and neither the plus or the minus need necessarily be small.
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Posted 2011-October-03, 21:34

In order to have a reasonable chance to make 5♥, we need a big hand from pd, not a 4441 or some 3451 13 hcp. Bidding 5♥ now will not only turn a plus to minus as Nigel said, but also has the danger of being lifted to 6 by pd. DBL doesnt mean "i have ♣ suit pd" it means cards.

Also, no need to mention that stronger hand of opponents is behind our pd. Lets give pd a decent hand AQxx Kxxx AKx xx or AQxx Kxxx AKxx x or even stronger and all prime hcps AKxx Kxxx AKxx x we still have too many losers for 5 level.
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Posted 2011-October-04, 16:49

At teams, I'd probably pass and pass! Perhaps a bit wimpish. At pairs I double on the first hand and pass the second.

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Posted 2011-October-04, 17:14

1st I'd double but would bid 5♥ with a 6th heart. I need a good reason to turn a plus into a speculative larger plus.

2nd is a pass unless you had some bizarro forcing pass agreement.
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