[Jinksy]

Some thoughts about the standard version of Gazz I had today. Presumably I'm not the first, so hopefully someone can tell me if there's a good reason why this doesn't make sense.

On what non-strong hands do you want to bother bidding 2C? The answer seems to me to be 'very few'. The possibility of you having 4(/5/6!) Cs is basically irrelevant to responder's subsequent bid if, as seems to be necessary, you're sometimes making the bid on weak hands with almost no lower bound on your C suit.

So really the 2C rebid seems to divide between 1) real mins that hate 1N but don't have an extra M or an honest suit to bid before 2M - ie 5nn5 or n5n5, or the occasional 45(4m), 2) semi-mins (13-15) that are bidding because they have to, just in case p has a real max, and 3) strong hands.

The problem with 1) is that most of the time a weak p won't find your suit, and even if he does, it might not have been worth going to the 3 level for.

The problem with the standard 2M rebid is that when p passes it (as I would guess he does on most auctions), the extra definition seems like it might help the opps more than it does you - if you have a 6 card suit (esp Hs), they can strain to protect.

So one solution would be to feed 1) into the 2M rebid, and stop it from promising 6M, which might actually be a net positive for that bid for the competitive reason above.

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That bit probably relates to Gazz in any system. I think the reasoning below only applies to Fantunes-style forcing 1-bids:


That raises the possibility of feeding 2) into the 2M rebid as well, though that seems less desirable. It would mean that now the 2C rebid is 'pure', though, which could help a lot with bidding strong hands. Now the 2D 2M 'minimum' rebid could be a bit stronger - 19-21, say, so that the positive 2D bid itself could be weaker than normal - maybe 3+, which would help a lot with bidding almost-GF balanced hands (which currently have a theoretical range of 21-24 after 1M 1N 2N, which seems horrifically wide to me).

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Opinions on any of the above welcomed.

[han]

What is the standard version of Gazilly?

[Lurpoa]

han, on 2011-December-03, 06:09, said:

What is the standard version of Gazilly?

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NO, that was last week.

Currently we are at version16.741 upgrade 7

A major upgrade to Gaz20 is expected for 01January2012!.

Could you wait till then please

tx

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[Jinksy]

han, on 2011-December-03, 06:09, said:

What is the standard version of Gazilly?

I would assume the one on Bridgeguys.