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IMPs, nv/nv, 1st seat, you hold:
♠AQx
♥Kxx
♦AJ9xx
♣Kx
You open 1♦, LHO bids 3♣ (weak), passed back to you. Your call?
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Posted 2012-June-10, 07:40
Makes you regret not opening 1NT, doesn't it? 
I'll bid 3NT, though not with any great conviction. Pass could easily be right.
I'll bid 3NT, though not with any great conviction. Pass could easily be right.
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Posted 2012-June-10, 15:40
Well I am certainly not bidding 3NT. That is a poor bid; from where are my tricks coming.
I would double. Partner may well have a 5 card M and not be strong enough to bid or x over 3C.
I would double. Partner may well have a 5 card M and not be strong enough to bid or x over 3C.
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Posted 2012-June-11, 02:26
I would double. The only reason for not opening 1NT is when 17 is not in your range.
Please note: I am interested in boring, bog standard, 2/1.
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Posted 2012-June-11, 10:09
I'd like to wellcome the 3 posters above for joining the NaB forum 
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Posted 2012-June-11, 10:16
Thanks for the votes and comments. As you might have guessed, there was UI involved, the auction was actually:
1♦-(3♣)-2♠*-(P)
*withdrawn and replaced with pass
There was no director call at the time of the insufficient bid because the woman making the bid is legally blind and didn't see (or hear) the 3♣ bid correctly.
It is my guess that at a Flight A level, there is no LA to DBL. (Maybe I am wrong about that.) But, this player was well below that level and I wondered if Pass was also a LA at that level. That's why I posted on Novice and Beginner.
As an aside: I can imagine lots of Flight A players upgrading this to 18 and opening 1♦ with the intention of jumping in NT on the next round to show a hand too good to open 1N. I'm sure this pair was playing 15-17 and the player in question opened 1♦ simply because he had what looked like a good five card suit.
One other thing: I was not the director...nor was I at the table.
1♦-(3♣)-2♠*-(P)
*withdrawn and replaced with pass
There was no director call at the time of the insufficient bid because the woman making the bid is legally blind and didn't see (or hear) the 3♣ bid correctly.
It is my guess that at a Flight A level, there is no LA to DBL. (Maybe I am wrong about that.) But, this player was well below that level and I wondered if Pass was also a LA at that level. That's why I posted on Novice and Beginner.
As an aside: I can imagine lots of Flight A players upgrading this to 18 and opening 1♦ with the intention of jumping in NT on the next round to show a hand too good to open 1N. I'm sure this pair was playing 15-17 and the player in question opened 1♦ simply because he had what looked like a good five card suit.
One other thing: I was not the director...nor was I at the table.
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Posted 2012-June-13, 19:59
TimG, on 2012-June-11, 10:16, said:
But, this player was well below that level and I wondered if Pass was also a LA at that level. That's why I posted on Novice and Beginner.
I think you need to go to more effort than that if you want responses from N/B players.
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Posted 2012-July-02, 09:09
steve2005, on 2012-July-02, 06:03, said:
At imps surely, you give 3♠ a shot (by responder) rather than barring partner with a pass
Opener surely has to to find another bid after deciding the hand is to strong for 1NT, or if playing a weak NT because doubling shows this hand. But yeah, the 2S is unfortunate.
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