[jbaptistec]

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IMPs, all red, spots approximate.
West deals, opps remain silent.

[ggwhiz]

1♥ - 2♦ - 2nt - 3nt

That's not entirely due to seeing both hands. I've had similar auctions and gone down when they run 5 clubs but many more that have worked out.

[Antrax]

For me 1♥-2♦(GF), 2NT-3♥ (3-card GF raise), 4♥ (lousy hearts and lousy shape) P

[aguahombre]

1H-2D
2N-3H....If the 2NT rebid eliminated serious/non-serious from consideration, then:
3N...as an option to play there, without seeing both hands.

We would have different problems because of different agreements about opener's rebid, however, and would end in 4H.

[Cyberyeti]

1N(12-14)-3N

[kenrexford]

Two possibilities (assuming 2/1 GF):


1♥-2♦
2NT-3♥
3♣(control)-3♦(two of top three diamonds)
3♠(control, not two top hearts)-4♥(no additiopnal cues available, non-serious)
P

1♥-2♣(real or fit)
2♦(real or balanced)-2♥(fit)
2♠(control)-3♦(control, no club control, not two top hearts)
4♥

If playing MICS (canape), two options:

1♥(could be balanced 11-12, 4-5♥*)-2♣/2♦(GF, deciding as above)
2♥(minimum)-2NT(asking for more)
3♥(balanced minimum)-3NT
P

*With better hearts, might have opened 1♦.

1NT(fifth heart merits upgrade to 13)-3NT

[Bbradley62]

Antrax, on 2012-September-05, 10:29, said:

For me 1♥-2♦(GF), 2NT-3♥ (3-card GF raise), 4♥ (lousy hearts and lousy shape) P

Same for me.

[Bbradley62]

In SAYC, the auction would be:
1♥-2♦(not GF)
2♥-4♥

[rmnka447]

Playing stone age 2/1 ---

1 ♥ - 2 ♦

2 ♥(minimum) - 3 ♥(GF in ♥, some slam interest)

4 ♥( minimum minimum, no slam interest unless responder has a really huge moose) - P

[jbaptistec]

Thank you for your answers.
We were not playing 2/1 GF, so after 3♥ opener judged his ♦Axx was golden. Our auction went

1♥ - 2♦ -
2♥¹ - 3♥ -
3♠² - 4♦ -
4NT³ - 5♥...

(1) 2NT would have shown 15-17
(2) 2nd-round control
(3) RKCB

Fortunately we had horrible breaks so every game was also doomed.

[Codo]

1 Nt 3 Nt

or
1 ♥ 2 ♦
2 ♥ 4 ♥

or
1 ♥ 2 ♦
2♥ 3 ♥ (SI)
3 ♠ 4♦ (Cue, Cue, but not serious..)
4 ♠ 4 NT (Shows Club control, wants partner to ask, as we have the better defined hand so far) KC
5♥ pass (2 without...) We are too high.

[Quantumcat]

kenrexford, on 2012-September-05, 13:43, said:

1♥-2♦
2NT-3♥
3♣(control)-3♦(two of top three diamonds)
3♠(control, not two top hearts)-4♥(no additiopnal cues available, non-serious)

Director!

[kenrexford]

Quantumcat, on 2012-September-05, 19:52, said:

Director!

Look, it was just one possible sequence.

[Quantumcat]

Only joking

[the hog]

I find it amusing how many people claim they would reach 3NT on this hand. Cyberyeti's auction is plausible.
For me in a 2/1 scenario:
1H 2D
2H 3H
4C 4H

2H = standard waiting rebid on a min, 3H = GF, 4C = non serious cue.

Not all contracts make. I still have good chances on a S lead.

[Quantumcat]

the hog, on 2012-September-05, 21:03, said:

I find it amusing how many people claim they would reach 3NT on this hand.

Anyone who plays a weak notrump will have an easy 1NT - 3NT auction. How is that amusing?

[Codo]

Not anyone who plays weak NT does so with a 5 card major. In Germany f.e. it is complete unusual.

[han]

While Germany is a country filled with world renowned bridge theoreticians, I doubt the wisdom of opening anything but 1NT on this hand playing weak notrumps.

With my partner I would probably relay as east, and partner would show a 5332 distribution (any 5332). Looking at AQ tight of spades, poor hearts and a source of tricks, perhaps east would find 3NT.

Our auction:

1H - 2C
3C - 3D
3S - 3NT?

2C = GF relay
3C = no side suit, no shortness
3D = ask
3S = 5332
3NT = to play (although partner will bid again with 18-19).

It is not completely clear to me that relaying on this hand is best. I could also start with 2D, then the auction would go

1H - 2D (5+, GF)
2H - 3H
3S (non serious) - 4H

Driving to slam as west is bizarre.

[Cyberyeti]

Codo, on 2012-September-06, 01:40, said:

Not anyone who plays weak NT does so with a 5 card major. In Germany f.e. it is complete unusual.

Call that a 5 card major ? We open almost every 5 card major 332 1N, but I suspect a number of people might open this one a weak no trump even if they normally open 1M with a respectable 5M.

[Codo]

Han: Usual does not translate into good or preferable. It is just common.

I belive that opening 1 NT with these kind of hands is a winner and I do so in all of my partnerships, but is there any hard evidence that this really is an imp winner?
I think that there had been a research about this theme and that we discussed it here several years ago, but I am not sure anymore. Are there hard facts?
I guess there are, but obviously my memory is no real help in this case.