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Say the auction starts 2♣(strong)-2♦(waiting)-3♦(natural). How do you expect responder to continue? It has often struck me that dedicating 3♥ and 3♠ to the rather uncommon handtype with a 5-card major is a bit of a waste; on the other hand of course if 3M were to show only 4 it would be much harder to catch up later when responder does have 5.
Over 2♣-2♦-3♣ of course there is more room and I invite you to share your fun ideas about how to use it.
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Posted 2013-January-04, 20:31
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Posted 2013-January-04, 21:01
5+ cards,
though 2♣ - 2♦ - 3♣ - 3♦ is often artificial, maybe 2nd negative.
I realise this approach can miss a 4-4 major fit, which is why we all strain to open 1x on 2-suiters.
though 2♣ - 2♦ - 3♣ - 3♦ is often artificial, maybe 2nd negative.
I realise this approach can miss a 4-4 major fit, which is why we all strain to open 1x on 2-suiters.
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Posted 2013-January-04, 21:04
Benito's stuff is helpful here. After 2♣ - 2♦:
- 3M = 4M + 5+D
- 3♣ - 3♦ is noise and asks for a 4CM.
- 3♦ essentially denies a 4cM. I can see switching responder's 3M here.
- 3M = 4M + 5+D
- 3♣ - 3♦ is noise and asks for a 4CM.
- 3♦ essentially denies a 4cM. I can see switching responder's 3M here.
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Posted 2013-January-05, 06:01
Phil, on 2013-January-04, 21:04, said:
Benito's stuff is helpful here. After 2♣ - 2♦:
- 3M = 4M + 5+D
- 3♣ - 3♦ is noise and asks for a 4CM.
- 3♦ essentially denies a 4cM. I can see switching responder's 3M here.
- 3M = 4M + 5+D
- 3♣ - 3♦ is noise and asks for a 4CM.
- 3♦ essentially denies a 4cM. I can see switching responder's 3M here.
That's what I play, it solves the "lack of space" issue.
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Posted 2013-January-05, 15:44
Hi, i used to play that after 2D 2H as 24+ bal or 4+ H unbalanced, 2S as 4+ S unbalanced, and 3C/D nat denying 4M, 3H/S as SOLID 7+ suits asks for side cues.
For example after 2C-2D-2H: if 2D was only negative then 2S automatic response and now:
2NT 24+ bal
3C 5+H/4X->3D asks sidesuit(3H/S/NT=S/C/D), 3S=5+S, 3H=5-7 3+H
3D 4H/5+D
3H 4H/5+C
3S 1S444
3NT 6H 1 suited, not as good as stright 3H over 2D
IF 3C/D are allowed to bid with 4card MAJor its really bad,very bad:)
For example after 2C-2D-2H: if 2D was only negative then 2S automatic response and now:
2NT 24+ bal
3C 5+H/4X->3D asks sidesuit(3H/S/NT=S/C/D), 3S=5+S, 3H=5-7 3+H
3D 4H/5+D
3H 4H/5+C
3S 1S444
3NT 6H 1 suited, not as good as stright 3H over 2D
IF 3C/D are allowed to bid with 4card MAJor its really bad,very bad:)
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