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#1 User is offline   Fluffy 

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Posted 2013-May-09, 08:33

I've been wanting to share this hand with you several months, but it was a many part problem and no format fit.

So I made a webpage where you can do multi-part problems, when you pick an action another problem follows.

EDIT: The hand is in MPs in case it matters, gotta work for it to be shown on the page.

Hand I played in October

DOES NOT WORK WITH INTERNET EXPLORER on versions below 9, use a decent browser like firefox or chrome.





I'd like to be able to embed this thing on the forums, maybe when I'm done with all the stuff that's left (quite a LOT of things) I will work on that.

But right now, please try the hand and share with us your score, don't be ashamed, a world master on your shoes got the worst possible score so you will be in good company.
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Posted 2013-May-09, 08:37

The link doesn't work for me.
Edit: I use internet explorer 10.
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Posted 2013-May-09, 09:04

sigh, I gotta work more with compatibilities :(
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Posted 2013-May-09, 09:05

ALL HAIL THE BRIDGE GOD FLUFFY!!!!!!!

We are not worthy.
Hi y'all!

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Posted 2013-May-09, 09:12

Stopped on me in Firefox, I won the A v 4 and played a small spade back. That trick was won and then it stopped.

Edit: tried a different return at trick 2 and it stopped there too, giving an error when I attempted to retry.
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Posted 2013-May-09, 09:25

I managed to play the whole hand out but every spade symbol (including on the cards) was shown as a question mark in a box. (Edit: Firefox 20)

I must have missed the point of the hand though. I bid 1C to start, then 1H-1S-p; 2S-X-p-3H; p-4H and out. CJ lead to the A and K, SA and spade back, declarer ruffed, drew trumps and gave me the DA. Looks pretty cold given the DJ drops in two rounds.

(Edit: unless that's the point. Win the DA and play another one back straight away, declarer has to guess? Or even underlead the DA at trick two?)

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Posted 2013-May-09, 09:39

I tried this on my office computer (running Internet Explorer 9) and it did not work. When I get home, I will try it on Google Chrome.
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Posted 2013-May-09, 09:43

Stopped in Chrome too. I got as far as trick 4. After I ran out of trump I could not discard any suit.

Also took me a good 5 minutes to figure out how to bid and where to look to see the bidding. The rectangle at bottom left where it says 1c - 1h - 1s confused me.

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Posted 2013-May-09, 09:49

It worked fine in Opera. There seemed to be two valid defensive solutions.
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Posted 2013-May-09, 09:55

complaints about site´s name to be delivered to richard pavlicek, who was the one to suggest the nick... http://www.rpbridge.net/7x96.htm

Its sad that so many problems are arising, I think play stopping will be because ajax is failing at some point for too many conections and the hand doesn´t load, I never saw before requests timing out, but will I change it when I´m back tonight to resend requests after a timeout.
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Posted 2013-May-09, 09:57

View PostFluffy, on 2013-May-09, 09:55, said:

complaints about site´s name to be delivered to richard pavlicek, who was the one to suggest the nick... http://www.rpbridge.net/7x96.htm

Its sad that so many problems are arising, I think play stopping will be because ajax is failing at some point for too many conections and the hand doesn´t load, I will change it when I´m back tonight to resend requests after a timeout.


I love the site name!

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Posted 2013-May-09, 10:04

View PostPhilKing, on 2013-May-09, 09:49, said:

There seemed to be two valid defensive solutions.

Yes, the problem is flawed but the interface is on its way to being good.
... that would still not be conclusive proof, before someone wants to explain that to me as well as if I was a 5 year-old. - gwnn
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Posted 2013-May-09, 15:18

Worked on chrome just now, but wouldn't let me switch to a low Diamond after winning partner's club opening lead. Should beat 4 hearts.
Slick interface. Liked it a lot...
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Posted 2013-May-09, 15:29

Nicely done Fluf! Found one little bug though: I can't play 9 at trick 2. When I click 9 it plays 6.
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Posted 2013-May-09, 15:40

It seemed to work for me in Chrome.
Although after I'd beaten the contract and partner led to trick 9, it showed all four hands, and said we had 4 tricks, but still had the message "this option is not covered..." shwoing
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Posted 2013-May-09, 17:07

View PostFree, on 2013-May-09, 15:29, said:

Nicely done Fluf! Found one little bug though: I can't play 9 at trick 2. When I click 9 it plays 6.


Its not a bug, it is extremelly hard to compute all ways to play a hand, so I simplify some points by playing some pips that are equal, this hand's graph has 104 nodes if I recall correctly. When you played that pip if I wasn't lazy there should had appeared a text at the top explaing that they are almost equal or something like.

This was the way I planned to catter for completelly equal cards like AKQ or 987, but later on I found a way to allow any card by a transformation table, but right now I found no way for almost equal, or otherwise there would be no plan to follow if for example later on 8 is led from dummy and partner is suposed to allow yout 9 wich actually is 6 now.
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Posted 2013-May-09, 17:08

View Postahydra, on 2013-May-09, 09:25, said:

I managed to play the whole hand out but every spade symbol (including on the cards) was shown as a question mark in a box. (Edit: Firefox 20)

I must have missed the point of the hand though. I bid 1C to start, then 1H-1S-p; 2S-X-p-3H; p-4H and out. CJ lead to the A and K, SA and spade back, declarer ruffed, drew trumps and gave me the DA. Looks pretty cold given the DJ drops in two rounds.

(Edit: unless that's the point. Win the DA and play another one back straight away, declarer has to guess? Or even underlead the DA at trick two?)

ahydra

You came close, if you want the solution, here is the full story of the hand:

http://www.bridgegod...rt.php?artid=40


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Posted 2013-May-09, 17:09

View PostFrancesHinden, on 2013-May-09, 15:40, said:

It seemed to work for me in Chrome.
Although after I'd beaten the contract and partner led to trick 9, it showed all four hands, and said we had 4 tricks, but still had the message "this option is not covered..." shwoing

Thanks, I need to remove that message when you finally click on something that works.
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Posted 2013-May-09, 17:11

View Postmfa1010, on 2013-May-09, 08:37, said:

The link doesn't work for me.
Edit: I use internet explorer 10.


There seems to be a problem with my javascript code and internet explorer, I thoug once the CSS3 problem was solved IE would work, but there are more differences to account for, will need to work on that, thank you
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Posted 2013-May-09, 18:10

View PostCyberyeti, on 2013-May-09, 09:12, said:

Stopped on me in Firefox, I won the A v 4 and played a small spade back. That trick was won and then it stopped.

Edit: tried a different return at trick 2 and it stopped there too, giving an error when I attempted to retry.


View Postdiana_eva, on 2013-May-09, 09:43, said:

Stopped in Chrome too. I got as far as trick 4. After I ran out of trump I could not discard any suit.

Also took me a good 5 minutes to figure out how to bid and where to look to see the bidding. The rectangle at bottom left where it says 1c - 1h - 1s confused me.



Thanks guys, I forgot about this issue because it never failed on my own computer, but it just took a small amount of work on the server for it to start to fail. I have made a patch so that it will re-request info after some time awaiting for it, instead of waiting forever for it to come alone. So shouldn't happen again.
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