[Lord Molyb]

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Matchpoint scoring. Do you open 1♦ or 2♣?

[billw55]

1♦ for me. Could be wrong or right .. meh

[whereagles]

Normally I prefer 2♣, but since the auction would be quite cramped afterwards, I think I'll go with the slight underbid of 1♦.

[Cyberyeti]

whereagles, on 2014-September-22, 11:41, said:

Normally I prefer 2♣, but since the auction would be quite cramped afterwards, I think I'll go with the slight underbid of 1♦.

I agree with this analysis, normally I open 2♣ on this sort of hand if the ideal 4432 zero count offers me good prospects of game and xxx, 109xx, xxxx, xx will make either 3N or 5♦ most of the time.

However, the auction would be cramped and I wouldn't be able to show both suits below 3N, so I'd open 1♦.

[neilkaz]

1♦ and perhaps it will be OK if it floats all pass. 2♣ is cramped here and with only 3 cards in the majors I don't expect 1♦ to be passed out very often.

[mikeh]

This is a no brainer 1♦

Admittedly it helps to be playing a style in which responder strains to keep the bidding open. I mean, in my partnerships (and we aren't exactly the most aggressive players on the planet) it is normal to respond with say KJxxx xxx xx xxx (we play a weak 1N which is an extra incentive to respond in a major, since often opener is rebidding 1N, strong).

[mcphee]

I agreee it's a no brainer 1D. I'm confident that if game is possible partner is not passing. If he should pass it looks like I may manage another bid if they do.

[Trump Echo]

I guess I'm the scarecrow. I open 2 Clubs followed by 3 Diamonds followed by 4 Diamonds and I let my partner take it from there.

[neilkaz]

Trump Echo, on 2014-September-23, 05:57, said:

I guess I'm the scarecrow. I open 2 Clubs followed by 3 Diamonds followed by 4 Diamonds and I let my partner take it from there.

Why bid the same values twice? Surely opening 2♣ followed by rebidding 3♦ shows quite a good ♦ suit so why not follow up and rebid 4♣ rather than 4♦?

[Lord Molyb]

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Partner/opponents are GIB

[whereagles]

3♣.. unless GIB goes berserk over the bid.

[Cyberyeti]

whereagles, on 2014-September-23, 08:58, said:

3♣.. unless GIB goes berserk over the bid.

3♣ playing anything vaguely normal which I presume GIB does, 2N unbalanced GF playing what I play.

[Trump Echo]

neilkaz, on 2014-September-23, 06:17, said:

Why bid the same values twice? Surely opening 2♣ followed by rebidding 3♦ shows quite a good ♦ suit so why not follow up and rebid 4♣ rather than 4♦?

Because our system would promise 5 of each suit.

[mikeh]

Trump Echo, on 2014-September-23, 16:34, said:

Because our system would promise 5 of each suit.

let me suggest changing your system, unless you have an allergic reaction to playing in clubs when the hands are something like

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good luck getting to 7♣if opener gets all the way to 4♦ without bidding the suit.

[nige1]

Lord Molyb, on 2014-September-22, 10:41, said:

Matchpoint scoring. Do you open 1♦ or 2♣?

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IMO 1♦ = 10, 2♣ = 8, 2N = 6

[whereagles]

2NT = 6?? I'd give it zero

[Trump Echo]

nige1, on 2014-September-23, 20:02, said:

IMO 1♦ = 10, 2♣ = 8, 2N = 6

Yes, Clubs would be a better trump suit in that situation, but normally we'd embrace the 6-2 fit.

[helene_t]

Trump Echo, on 2014-September-23, 16:34, said:

Because our system would promise 5 of each suit.

mikeh, on 2014-September-23, 17:03, said:

good luck getting to 7♣if opener gets all the way to 4♦ without bidding the suit.

I dunno, no distinguishing between 6-4 and 5-5 isn't ideal either but I suppose that with 5-5 you may get the chance to suggest 5/6/7♣ after partner takes preference to diamonds, or maybe partner will suggest a club contract after having taken preference to diamonds.

I might bid 3NT at my third turn if I were to open 2♣, though. This would suggest some 6331 hand with a stiff honour (or an honour in partner's suit if he has shown something) which isn't too much of a distortion. Anyway, I haven't discussed follow-ups after 2♣ followed by 3♦ in any partnership so I try to avoid it.