[gordontd]

Wackojack, on 2014-October-29, 09:43, said:

4. South made a bid that many would make with 5 spades only

Did you miss a "not" in there?

[paulg]

Wackojack, on 2014-October-29, 09:43, said:

4. South made a bid that many would make with 5 spades only so we did miss a good 4♥contract and I hate missing good games at teams. And that is why I posted.

Even when spades are 5-3 it is highly likely that South will lead three rounds of spades and, assuming North implies a doubleton as he probably should, you are still likely to go wrong. So I still dispute that it is a good single-dummy game.

[PhantomSac]

double all day every day and welcome yourself to the 21st century

[PhantomSac]

For people scared of Xing just do it 15 times and report back. I guarantee you will not go back to overcalling.

[nige1]

gordontd, on 2014-October-29, 04:02, said:

Not only that, but I wonder where in the world a 2D overcall of 1S is Michaels?

Thanks Gordon. Now corrected.

[Jinksy]

X for me, too, for all the reasons above. Also, this isn't just any 2-level overcall - it's the least space-removingy 2-level overcall available, so I want a slightly better suit than I normally would for such a bid.

[Wackojack]

My thread contained 2 questions:

1. Double or overcall the hand in question. Well answered thanks for that.

2. Is this a good idea? Forget the actual hands what do the sequences mean?

1♠-x-p-2♥
2♠-3♥ competitive with 4 hearts

1♠-x-p-2♥
2♠-x-p-3m
p - 3♥ invite with 4 hearts

Wank was the only one to give an opinion and he thought it was bollocks

[helene_t]

Sometimes partner has long spades and would like to pass 2♠X if you have only three hearts. So I prefer dbl to deny four hearts.

[whereagles]

Dbl. Will pass 2♦... have enough firepower for it. All other replies are a piece of cake. 2♣ seems somewhat more random.

[whereagles]

Wackojack, on 2014-October-29, 09:43, said:

He suggested that on my hand double followed by 3♥was better.

Omnibus doubles freak me out, so I would never consider it. Sorry!!!

[wanoff]

Wackojack, on 2014-October-31, 04:00, said:

My thread contained 2 questions:

1. Double or overcall the hand in question. Well answered thanks for that.

2. Is this a good idea? Forget the actual hands what do the sequences mean?

1♠-x-p-2♥
2♠-3♥ competitive with 4 hearts

1♠-x-p-2♥
2♠-x-p-3m
p - 3♥ invite with 4 hearts

Wank was the only one to give an opinion and he thought it was bollocks

Well I thought the second double was a game try in hearts. 3m is passing the buck and 3♥ signoff.
Maybe Phantom can tell us.

[PhantomSac]

wanoff, on 2014-November-03, 05:00, said:

Well I thought the second double was a game try in hearts. 3m is passing the buck and 3♥ signoff.
Maybe Phantom can tell us.

Using the second double as specifically a game try in hearts leaves too many hands unbiddable, typically you have a strong hand with 3 hearts to double again (or possibly less with some kind of super strong hand or 2245 with a not great suit that doesn't wanna bid 3m?). e.g. xx AKx AKxx Axxx I think everyone would want to double again showing significant extra values and still trying to compete. Many people would play that the 2nd double never has 4 hearts, you either pass or bid 3 or bid 4H with a fit, I think Wackojack is suggesting maybe X and then bid hearts should show 4 hearts and an invite.

[MrAce]

PhantomSac, on 2014-November-03, 14:34, said:

Using the second double as specifically a game try in hearts leaves too many hands unbiddable, typically you have a strong hand with 3 hearts to double again (or possibly less with some kind of super strong hand or 2245 with a not great suit that doesn't wanna bid 3m?). e.g. xx AKx AKxx Axxx I think everyone would want to double again showing significant extra values and still trying to compete. Many people would play that the 2nd double never has 4 hearts, you either pass or bid 3 or bid 4H with a fit, I think Wackojack is suggesting maybe X and then bid hearts should show 4 hearts and an invite.

This is what I believe too. I do not think there are too many hands which you will want your pd to pass and only pass when we raise him to 3 level vs his simple 2♥ anyway. At 2 level it is competitive raise, at 3 level it is way too much imho to play raise just 4 cards and nothing extra. And second double to me denies 4 card ♥.