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Double fit, red vs white. Pull partner's double?

#1 User is offline   diana_eva 

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Posted 2014-December-27, 05:42

Yet another random game on BBO. IMPs.



Pass or pull? If you pull, what's your choice?

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Posted 2014-December-27, 07:25

Given we've done nothing but pass, surely partner won't double unless he thinks he can set it, e.g. three cashing aces? I'd leave it in - it may be that +100 is par.

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Posted 2014-December-27, 07:46

View Postahydra, on 2014-December-27, 07:25, said:

Given we've done nothing but pass, surely partner won't double unless he thinks he can set it, e.g. three cashing aces? I'd leave it in - it may be that +100 is par.

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On the other hand pd bid 2 suits at 5 level vulnerable vs a pd who has been passing, and I have fit for both, one of them being KTxxx.

If I pull I am of course bidding 6. And that is probably what I would do at the table.
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Posted 2014-December-27, 08:06

View Postahydra, on 2014-December-27, 07:25, said:

Given we've done nothing but pass, surely partner won't double unless he thinks he can set it, e.g. three cashing aces? I'd leave it in - it may be that +100 is par.

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He may think he has 3 cashing aces, but looking at our massive fit, aren't you worried his aces aren't cashing after all?

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Posted 2014-December-27, 08:35

View Postdiana_eva, on 2014-December-27, 08:06, said:

He may think he has 3 cashing aces, but looking at our massive fit, aren't you worried his aces aren't cashing after all?


I'd be more worried about missing slam. It depends on how much wasted honors pd has. I expect him to hold at least 6-5. With 7-4 or 6-4 he could bid 4 NT.

x A AKxxxx AJxxx probably cold slam
x A KQJxxx AQJxx maybe he would not double, idk.

In some hands he may hold a spade void.
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Posted 2014-December-27, 08:46

View Postahydra, on 2014-December-27, 07:25, said:

Given we've done nothing but pass, surely partner won't double unless he thinks he can set it, e.g. three cashing aces? I'd leave it in - it may be that +100 is par.

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double isn't penalties lol

it's very obvious to bid. my defence is negative [length opposite partner's high cards] and that length and club holding is enormous for partner.

i expect 6c to be on a finesse at worst.
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Posted 2014-December-27, 09:00

Who knows what dbl is for. May he be asking for a lead when opponents have a hidden 6-5 or 7-4 fit? I doubt it though.
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Posted 2014-December-27, 09:11

Pass could be right, but in my view that is wild and gambling.

For me, 6 is clear. Whilst it is not unlikely that both contracts are one off, there is a pretty big chance that either they make, we make or both.
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Posted 2014-December-27, 10:40

I would try 6 also. I am not sure what 5NT would be, but I think an ace or void somewhere would be nice. However I am not sure how I passed it once, so hard to say. On second thought I guess an ace or void is out of question. I think the sequence could be replicated up to the last double with many hands, but as things are partner confirmed he has lots of values and cant let go. x Ax AKxxx AQxxx is quite weak and we can make 6, shuffle abit we dont make 6. If I give a magnificent hand like - AK, AKQxxx, AJxxx, should he open 2 already, not bid 5, but 4NT or would he even double 5? Hard to say, but I feel there are more reasons to bid than pass. More I think partner could have more I consider 5NT and more unbelievable partner's hand becomes.
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Posted 2014-December-27, 10:43

We have a huge hand bidding seems super clear
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Posted 2014-December-27, 13:52

It's a huge double fit. I'll pull.
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Posted 2014-December-27, 14:13

Pull, concerned they will find a making slam in their massive two suit Majors fit. Will bid 6 hoping to avoid a ruff in a contract.
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