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#1 User is offline   cherdano 

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Posted 2015-December-22, 11:53

Robot Rebat, 5 boards in. My score sheet says:

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Score: 50%
Rank: 1
Clock: 21


(I do have a screenshot, but sorry, too lazy to upload it somewhere given that images are disabled on BBF.)
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Posted 2015-December-22, 12:21

How about no scores compared, everyone thus tied for first, and you are the first alphabetically?

Of course, I don't know. But there is a tie for first on summary with ACBLscore, when no scores have been posted from remote yet...might be similar thing on BBO.
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Posted 2015-December-22, 12:26

View Postcherdano, on 2015-December-22, 11:53, said:

Robot Rebat, 5 boards in. My score sheet says:



(I do have a screenshot, but sorry, too lazy to upload it somewhere given that images are disabled on BBF.)

Are you Flight A? Isn't this score tiered?
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Posted 2015-December-22, 12:37

A lot of adjusted scores to average minus for both sides?
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Posted 2015-December-22, 13:09

View Postgwnn, on 2015-December-22, 12:26, said:

Are you Flight A? Isn't this score tiered?


I don't know whether this one is tiered, but if so I am Flight A.
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Posted 2015-December-22, 14:39

a rare combination of 5 straight pushes but you played them the fastest and time is a tie breaker?????
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Posted 2015-December-22, 14:50

View Postgszes, on 2015-December-22, 14:39, said:

a rare combination of 5 straight pushes but you played them the fastest and time is a tie breaker?????

If there is a tie, it says so, e.g. "Rank: 1-5"
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Posted 2015-December-22, 20:45

How about if someone was ahead of you but withdrew, and you're the top player left?
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Posted 2015-December-22, 20:49

View Postcherdano, on 2015-December-22, 13:09, said:

View Postgwnn, on 2015-December-22, 12:26, said:

Are you Flight A? Isn't this score tiered?


I don't know whether this one is tiered, but if so I am Flight A.

No, you're not.

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Posted 2015-December-22, 22:01

Look, just because Arend's not a LIFE MASTER doesn't mean he's not Flight A.
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Posted 2015-December-22, 23:23

It's my understanding (hopefully Barry will correct me if I'm wrong) that strata are determined individually for each tournament, based on enrollment, with the top third of MP holders being A, the middle third being B and the bottom third being C. So, it's entirely possible for a player to sometimes fall in any of the three divisions. In the tournament results page I've linked, Cherdano qualified for B; in the tournaments immediately before and after that one he was C and A. I'm guessing it was the small high-powered tournament where he was C that he got that funny standings report. There have been several posts suggesting that in-tournament results get reported overall rather than stratified, but BBO seems not to think that's a good idea.
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Posted 2015-December-23, 06:21

View PostBbradley62, on 2015-December-22, 23:23, said:

It's my understanding (hopefully Barry will correct me if I'm wrong) that strata are determined individually for each tournament, based on enrollment, with the top third of MP holders being A, the middle third being B and the bottom third being C. So, it's entirely possible for a player to sometimes fall in any of the three divisions. In the tournament results page I've linked, Cherdano qualified for B; in the tournaments immediately before and after that one he was C and A. I'm guessing it was the small high-powered tournament where he was C that he got that funny standings report. There have been several posts suggesting that in-tournament results get reported overall rather than stratified, but BBO seems not to think that's a good idea.

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Posted 2015-December-23, 22:15

Could it be that there are multiple sections (your posted score during the tournament is your section score, I believe) yet the match pointing is done across the field. Then if it turns out that the other people in your section have score less than 50%, you will appear to ranked #1.
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Posted 2015-December-24, 03:59

Oh, is that why the rank is always wrong, because it's only comparing me to the other flight C players? Well, whatever, I only care about getting 55% anyway.
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Posted 2015-December-24, 06:52

View PostBbradley62, on 2015-December-22, 23:23, said:

It's my understanding (hopefully Barry will correct me if I'm wrong) that strata are determined individually for each tournament, based on enrollment, with the top third of MP holders being A, the middle third being B and the bottom third being C. So, it's entirely possible for a player to sometimes fall in any of the three divisions. In the tournament results page I've linked, Cherdano qualified for B; in the tournaments immediately before and after that one he was C and A. I'm guessing it was the small high-powered tournament where he was C that he got that funny standings report. There have been several posts suggesting that in-tournament results get reported overall rather than stratified, but BBO seems not to think that's a good idea.


I see. I indeed was the only Flight C player in the tournament where this happened. Never realized that the rank displays the flighted rank, seems pretty strange and unexpected.
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Posted 2015-December-25, 17:20

View Postcherdano, on 2015-December-24, 06:52, said:

I see. I indeed was the only Flight C player in the tournament where this happened. Never realized that the rank displays the flighted rank, seems pretty strange and unexpected.

You were the only one who finished the tournament. Six players started, with two assigned to each stratum.
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Posted 2015-December-26, 03:34

View PostBbradley62, on 2015-December-25, 17:20, said:

You were the only one who finished the tournament. Six players started, with two assigned to each stratum.

Wait! How do you know in which tournament I had noticed this?
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