[MrAce]

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2/1 IMP pairs

[mr1303]

The hands could fit well, or they could not. I suppose partner could pass 1H with real dross, but 3H isn't safe. Also when vul partner will accept easily, and that might not be good, so I shall pass cautiously.

[mr1303]

The hands could fit well, or they could not. I suppose partner could pass 1H with real dross, but 3H isn't safe. Also when vul partner will accept easily, and that might not be good, so I shall pass cautiously.

[The_Badger]

With 5-4-2-2 shape the hand isn't crying out for another bid as it stands. Exchange the ♦ and ♠ suits, and I would venture (hesitantly) 3♣.

[wank]

i'd have a go. the opps' haven't bid. that suggests partner has spades in which case our hand is fitting well. i'd just bid 3H. general try. bidding 3C would be a big mistake.

[ahydra]

My instinct is to pass, particularly if partner often raises with 3 here.

ahydra

[alok c]

3♥.

[blackshoe]

Pass.

[Winstonm]

Imps, 4th seat open and raise instead of pass. I'm taking another bid.

[rmnka447]

At MP, I think pass would absolutely clear.

But at IMPs, where bidding thin vulnerable games is a winning strategy, I'm making a try.

So, 2 NT or 3 ♥ whichever is the power invitational raise.

[nige1]

MrAce, on 2017-June-09, 04:10, said:

2/1 IMP pairs

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I rank

• 3♥ = INV. 6-7 losers. Partner's 4th-in-hand opener is likely to be sound. Partner would pass your 1♥ reply with only 3 ♥s. It is reasonable to stretch for game, at IMPs, hoping for at least ♠ K x x ♥ x x x x ♦ A K x x ♣ K x
• Pass = NAT. For game to be a good bet, you need to cherry-pick opener's hand,

[gszes]

If the spade T were the J I would try 3c (hsgt) at any form of scoring. Qx (the T is just a bonus) vs QJ just does not seem like enough to keep me from trying for game at imps especially when p opened 1d increasing the odds of avoiding the suit with a loser I hope to pitch on spades. That huge bonus for making a vulnerable game has forced me to go down in many partials in a fruitless effort to find a vul game nugget. Ah well perhaps the next 1000 years will bring me more luck.

[steve2005]

Pass 8 loser hand mostly Quacks, partner needs perfect hand for any play of game

[gwnn]

nopes

[MrAce]

Thanks all. On this deal pd had

http://www.bridgebas...D9%7Cpc%7CDQ%7C

[cherdano]

ahydra, on 2017-June-09, 07:27, said:

particularly if partner often raises with 3 here.

Isn't raising on 3 quite rare after a 4th seat opening? Partner would often pass with 3 hearts.

[gwnn]

interesting, game is also good on xx of spades. A typical hand where I'd mistime ruffs/drawing trumps, so maybe I'm better off passing.

[relknes]

A lot depends on your opening style. If you expect partner to have sound values for a vulnerable, 4th seat, minor suit opening, then I would think it is worth a game try. I would probably try 2N in my regular partnership, or 3♥ with someone new.

[RedSpawn]

steve2005, on 2017-June-09, 20:13, said:

Pass 8 loser hand mostly Quacks, partner needs perfect hand for any play of game

Agreed. Mostly quacks in this hand is an instant downgrade and QT♠ rates as a dubious doubleton with a worthless ♦ doubleton. Rest at part score as game is unlikely since this hand has too many defects.

[Jinksy]

I would pass since I'm not a very good declarer.