Opening Bids - where do you draw the line?
#21
Posted 2018-March-06, 20:56
ahydra
#22
Posted 2018-March-06, 22:23
#23
Posted 2018-March-06, 22:47
Change the spade suit to ♥ and I may pass 2 of them.
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#24
Posted 2018-March-07, 01:20
#25
Posted 2018-March-07, 01:43
I’m a “playing tricks” sort: top honours need intermediate support (without it lose tricks and tempi), whole hand sets the type (offensive/defensive), and bidding is a positional consequence...so you won’t be surprised that these examples just fall short. I tried plenty of ultra weak openers and mini NT in my time but the better players just gratefully take our imps
#26
Posted 2018-March-07, 02:33
For what it's worth, here are my views (perspective weak NT four-card majors):
- 1 & 2 fit easily within my no trump range and are automatic openers.
- At one of my clubs, it is becoming normal for a 1NT opening to be described as 11-14. I am increasingly including 11-counts in my 1NT - particularly at pairs. Hands 3, 4, and 6 are hands where I would probably open 1NT (never hand 5).
- I don't understand comments about "playing tricks". Playing tricks are a pretty poor valuation method for No Trump contracts. The examples are all balanced and no trumps is a likely contract.
- Some have commented that they are more likely to open these hands in third seat. I understand the sentiment, but have a different perspective based on playing a weak no trump. Third seat is the most dangerous place to open a weak NT, because your LHO is marked with some strength. I certainly won't open 1NT any weaker in third seat and might if anything tend towards caution (downgrading poor 15 counts etc.). I am very comfortable opening a weak NT in second seat - its a very descriptive bid. I will preempt aggressively in third seat, and open unbalanced hands aggressively (particularly if I want the hand led or i own the spade suit), but balanced hands tend to have plenty of defensive strength and relatively little playing strength and there is no reason to be over aggressive with balanced hands in third seat.
#28
Posted 2018-March-07, 04:52
nige1, on 2018-March-06, 20:48, said:
Playing a strong 1♣ system, with the other 1-openers limited, you might take Spotlight7's advice and risk opening all the example hands .
Playing 2/1, even 1, 2, 3, and 4 are risky openers,.
Interestingly, when playing a robot best-hand tournament, you should probably risk opening them all, because you have the boss suit and your hand caps the other hands.
Which is why "best hand" is so horrible
#29
Posted 2018-March-07, 07:06
#30
Posted 2018-March-07, 08:23
Maybe “1S= 12+ but with exclusions by agreement?” (so can pass bad 12s systematically)?
But that leaves the 5 who would open Board 5; the 7 on Board 3 and the 8 on Board 6…
#31
Posted 2018-March-07, 09:39
nullve, on 2018-March-06, 08:43, said:
May I suggest you read the famous poem "The Boy Stood on the Burning Deck" and read the
fate of Casabianca who "always followed orders" Quite often the blind lead the blind(!)
- Dr Tarrasch(1862-1934)German Chess Grandmaster
Bridge is a game where you have two opponents...and often three(!)
"Any palooka can take tricks with Aces and Kings; the true expert shows his prowess
by how he handles the two's and three's" - Mollo's Hideous Hog
#32
Posted 2018-March-07, 11:46
#33
Posted 2018-March-07, 12:23
#34
Posted 2018-March-07, 13:44
#35
Posted 2018-March-07, 15:37
#36
Posted 2018-March-07, 17:06
Playing a 2/1 system, I would open one spade (not without some trepidation) on hand 1, one club on hand 2, and pass the rest. But with respect to hand one, remember that I don't allow 1NT forcing on any game-force hand (max of a really bad 12). No bidding 1NT forcing with 13 and then jumping to 3NT. So I will pass a 1NT response with hand one. Another reason to play 1NT as forcing with exceptions. If partner makes a 2/1 call, I'll try to steer things into 3NT rather than 4S if I can.
Playing GIB tourneys, however, all of them are easy openers.
Playing a strong club system, you can probably open all of them, although hand 5 is still a bit of a stretch.
Cheers,
mike
#38
Posted 2018-March-07, 19:00
#39
Posted 2018-March-07, 23:23
Third seat - I open any with 11+hcp and 5 spades
Fourth seat, I passed the hands with less than 11 hcp since I have no aces.
#40
Posted 2018-March-08, 01:43