Hamman's rule?
#1
Posted 2022-December-21, 05:12
♥AQJ3
♦3
♣AK9532
MPs, no-one vuln. RHO is dealer and opens a weak 2♥. Your bid?
#2
Posted 2022-December-21, 05:29
AL78, on 2022-December-21, 05:12, said:
♥AQJ3
♦3
♣AK9532
MPs, no-one vuln. RHO is dealer and opens a weak 2♥. Your bid?
X?
In my opinion the problem with 3NT, clubs dont run.
If p pulls out lebensohl 2NT, I will bid 3C and over
3D from p you can think about 3NT.
Uwe Gebhardt (P_Marlowe)
#3
Posted 2022-December-21, 05:37
#5
Posted 2022-December-21, 07:53
#6
Posted 2022-December-21, 08:11
DavidKok, on 2022-December-21, 07:53, said:
Not all balanced hands start with a double by any means. 2N, X then 2N, 3N as the first 3 ranges for balanced is not uncommon.
Also you deserve to pull 3N and find partner had Axx, KQJ, AKxxxx, K or similar, not great at MPs with 3N definitely making if diamonds are 2-1 and making 430 a lot of the time.
#7
Posted 2022-December-21, 08:18
The only problem with 3NT is that it suggests to the defensers that a ♥ lead is not productive, so they may find your weak suit ♦s from the off. But I have to agree with DavidKok that 3NT on the balance of things looks the best choice.
#8
Posted 2022-December-21, 08:32
If 3NT is an option bid it.
#9
Posted 2022-December-21, 09:50
Passing hoping partner Xes is probably asking too much, even in Xmas time like now.
3C is the best way to ensure to go plus, but that would often let the bidding die here when we can have game in a reasonable number of cases. So we might be the lowest score on the travel sheet.
Most will bid 3 NT anyway (usually a long minor and not too balanced shape, unsuitable for X then bid below the golden contract). X followed by 3NT would be sth more balanced, 20+, I think.
So I’m not really liking it much but sign me in for 3NT.
#10
Posted 2022-December-21, 11:15
On a heart lead partner put down:
♠KQJ62
♥9
♦JT42
♣JT6
I made all 13 tricks when the clubs break 2-2. The diamond ace is onside so 12 tricks are cold in clubs or NT. After the weak two I think the chances of dropping the queen are less than 50% so it is not a great slam although one pair found the club slam. One was in 5♣, three were in 4♠ (one going down) and one pair didn't get past 3♣. That was worth 15/18 MPs. There is a fair randomness element in a field of mixed standard even with 10 tables.
You don't make 6♠ because the spades break 5-1.
#11
Posted 2022-December-21, 12:24
#12
Posted 2022-December-21, 14:02
So 3N it is.
#13
Posted 2022-December-22, 03:56
AL78, on 2022-December-21, 11:15, said:
On a heart lead partner put down:
♠KQJ62
♥9
♦JT42
♣JT6
I made all 13 tricks when the clubs break 2-2. The diamond ace is onside so 12 tricks are cold in clubs or NT. After the weak two I think the chances of dropping the queen are less than 50% so it is not a great slam although one pair found the club slam. One was in 5♣, three were in 4♠ (one going down) and one pair didn't get past 3♣. That was worth 15/18 MPs. There is a fair randomness element in a field of mixed standard even with 10 tables.
You don't make 6♠ because the spades break 5-1.
I agree with you about 6♣ being poor because of vacant spaces outside hearts - West has 11 and east only 7. 6NT is not an option though.
#14
Posted 2022-December-22, 09:52
Douglas43, on 2022-December-22, 03:56, said:
Don't the vacant spaces argue for a relatively safe ♣Q finesse?
It's the diamonds that puzzle me about 6NT, unless "ace onside" means stiff in RHO.
#15
Posted 2022-December-22, 10:39
pescetom, on 2022-December-22, 09:52, said:
It's the diamonds that puzzle me about 6NT, unless "ace onside" means stiff in RHO.
The vacant spaces argument says LHO is more likely to have Qxx(x) over my club suit so the club suit is more likely than normal to have a loser.
The ace is with LHO under the king, so on a low diamond lead putting up the king works.
#16
Posted 2022-December-22, 10:50
AL78, on 2022-December-22, 10:39, said:
Sorry, yes of course. The hand I was looking at is partner's.
AL78, on 2022-December-22, 10:39, said:
I read:
AL78, on 2022-December-21, 11:15, said:
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♦JT42
#18
Posted 2022-December-22, 19:38
akwoo, on 2022-December-21, 14:02, said:
What's the chance that partner's suit is clubs? If they bid Lebensohl, it's practically guaranteed that they're bidding 3♦ over 3♣.
And with such a big hand, you're allowed to break the relay. You can bid 3NT instead of 3♣. The reason to double is to keep spades in the picture.