[jillybean]

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Biss Boss suit

[smerriman]

Might be dangerous at this vulnerability but I think I'd be too tempted and bid 2♠ (last round).

[TylerE]

Pass seems like a standout to me. Spades are not splitting. What source of tricks do we have. I see probably 4 spade tricks and 2 !C and that's about it.

If I for some reason felt compelled to bid the time to do it would have been a round earlier and a level lower.

[mw64ahw]

The OS would have me bid 3♠ as an IJO from the outset

[jillybean]

Lately we've talked a little about beginner freeze, I was not sure what to do first round.
When it came back to me in 3H, I'm wondering about a psych.

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-1 beginners luck

[P_Marlowe]

As far as I can see, 4H is making. Given your 3S bid, East knows, West does not have a lot of
wastage in spade.

I would also suggest, that you forget about the existence of psychs.
In Why you loose at Bridge, S.J. Simon describes an episode, he had, he was playing against an
renowned expert, who loved to psych, ... in the end basically all had their bids, and it was
good for him, although he though during the bidding, that they tried to cheat him out of his
inheritance.

It is not clear, if they would bid 4H without 3S, most likey the would, but you know your customers
better.

[jillybean]

I was happy with the result, 4♥ & +1 made at the other tables.
Psychs usually don't enter my mind. This opponent & this auction had me wondering.

[mw64ahw]

mw64ahw, on 2025-February-04, 01:58, said:

The OS would have me bid 3♠ as an IJO from the outset

Except I'm not sure I can do that unless the 1♠ overcall is artificial which is how I play it.

[mw64ahw]

jillybean, on 2025-February-04, 04:38, said:

Lately we've talked a little about beginner freeze, I was not sure what to do first round.
When it came back to me in 3H, I'm wondering about a psych.

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-1 beginners luck

3♥ looks like an underbid given East has shown 6♥
Taking East with a minimum 13 total points - this can be upgraded to 16 (taking a Goren revaluation approach) once a fit is found so 16 +12 = 278

[jillybean]

mw64ahw, on 2025-February-04, 05:42, said:

3♥ looks like an underbid given East has shown 6♥
Taking East with a minimum 13 total points - this can be upgraded to 16 (taking a Goren revaluation approach) once a fit is found so 16 +12 = 278

I like your math

[mw64ahw]

jillybean, on 2025-February-04, 05:47, said:

I like your math

obviously good enough for game and maybe even a grand

[jillybean]

What do people think of West's 1♠ bid?

[P_Marlowe]

jillybean, on 2025-February-04, 06:06, said:

What do people think of West's 1♠ bid?

It is ok. Given that you at least invite, you can try to go looking for 44 in spade.
If you plan to force to game, which the current West did not, since he did bid only 3H,
it depends: if you have the option to show a gf raise with 3 card support for p or not,
if you do, I guess you are better served by going down this road.

Should you force to game? I would, but I dont open super light, and I would make forcing
raise of hearts.

[mw64ahw]

jillybean, on 2025-February-04, 06:06, said:

What do people think of West's 1♠ bid?

I would show the ♥ support and not bother with ♠
I make the bid playing an artificial 1♠.
After 1N from partner 3♥ is a 3-card limit raise with 8 mod. losers
After 2♣ to 2♥, 3♦ shows the 3-card limit raise with 8 mod. losers. 2♦ would show 4♠ so i then have a choice of games

[jdiana]

jillybean, on 2025-February-04, 06:06, said:

What do people think of West's 1♠ bid?

I think this (i.e., what to do holding 3 hearts and 4 spades when partner opens 1♥) was discussed in another thread recently but I don't remember which one. Playing 2/1, our rule is that we don't bypass spades to bid a semi-forcing 1NT unless we also have 3 hearts and an invitational hand, and we're just using 1NT to set the stage for our 3♥ bid.

That's a long-winded way of saying "support with support" - I would have bid 1NT followed by 3♥.

[jdiana]

smerriman, on 2025-February-03, 18:27, said:

Might be dangerous at this vulnerability but I think I'd be too tempted and bid 2♠ (last round).

I would also have bid 2♠ at the first opportunity. But this ("sandwich seat" bids) is another area for partnership discussion. Would partner have recognized 2♠ as natural? What would X mean? What would 2♥ mean? What about OBAR bids?

[bluenikki]

jillybean, on 2025-February-03, 17:59, said:

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Biss Boss suit

Why didn't you bid 2♠ at your first turn? If you believe that is 2-suited, think again.

You already have 2 calls for the unbid suits: double and 2NT. I don't know what nuances you use to distinguish them, but surely any more detailed nuances are of more use to the opponents. Who, after all, are odds on to declare.

[jillybean]

bluenikki, on 2025-February-04, 11:02, said:

Why didn't you bid 2♠ at your first turn? If you believe that is 2-suited, think again.

You already have 2 calls for the unbid suits: double and 2NT. I don't know what nuances you use to distinguish them, but surely any more detailed nuances are of more use to the opponents. Who, after all, are odds on to declare.

jillybean, on 2025-February-04, 04:38, said:

Lately we've talked a little about beginner freeze, I was not sure what to do first round.

Make that 3 calls for the unbid suits, for those who play sandwich 1nt

[smerriman]

mw64ahw, on 2025-February-04, 06:13, said:

I would show the ♥ support and not bother with ♠
I make the bid playing an artificial 1♠.

But of course West isn't playing that; with standard 2/1 it's not possible to show the ♥ support with your first bid. 1♠ seems automatic to me, I would assume 1NT (as a precursor to jumping in hearts) strictly denies 4 spades.

[mw64ahw]

smerriman, on 2025-February-04, 16:04, said:

But of course West isn't playing that; with standard 2/1 it's not possible to show the ♥ support with your first bid. 1♠ seems automatic to me, I would assume 1NT (as a precursor to jumping in hearts) strictly denies 4 spades.

I've known some play 1♥-3♥