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Robot pulls penalty double I doubled RHO insisting clubs 4 times!

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Posted 2025-April-03, 16:57



RHO bid 4 times! They were obviously in a misfit so I thought they would go down, but my partner pulled my penalty double, causing us to get a 0!
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Posted Yesterday, 14:29

Who says your double of 4 is a penalty double??? The description of double says "2+; 16- total points". That doesn't sound like a penalty double to me.
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Posted Today, 15:52

View Postjohnu, on 2025-April-04, 14:29, said:

Who says your double of 4 is a penalty double??? The description of double says "2+; 16- total points". That doesn't sound like a penalty double to me.

If it is a takeout double then the description will show a shortness in the suit. I think the robot bidding system description never uses the word "penalty", and it only shows length in the suit in these situations.
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Posted Today, 16:18

You might give some consideration to what MikeH said yesterday about the perils of playing with the robots...
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Posted Today, 16:26

View Postmikl_plkcc, on 2025-April-03, 16:57, said:

but my partner pulled my penalty double, causing us to get a 0!

That means 100% of the field have learnt that you do not double for penalties with robots, as discussed multiple times already. It's up to you as to how many bad scores you'd like to get before you join that club.
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Posted Today, 16:28

View Postmikl_plkcc, on 2025-April-05, 15:52, said:

If it is a takeout double then the description will show a shortness in the suit. I think the robot bidding system description never uses the word "penalty", and it only shows length in the suit in these situations.

In real life bridge, if you made a penalty double without a huge trump stack in an auction somewhat like this, you would have transferable values. You have next to none. You are also playing with a GIB. GIB loves taking out doubles, and has for decades.

And, the GIBs are in a forcing auction. Maybe they will end up in spades, or 5 clubs, or even higher. Why double them in a part score when they are going to continue bidding?
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