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West's 2H bid is defined as showing "11-16 total points".
Do you see anything even CLOSE to that many points in West's hand?
Neither do I.
Why do they even BOTHER with GIB definitions (?), since A. They're usually useless, often incorrect, and always pathetic, and B. The robots often ignore them anyway.
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#2082
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Posted Yesterday, 08:56
OMARHEUM has provided another very illuminating hand. I will discuss what happened at his table in this post (#2082), and then in the following post (#2083) I will discuss what happened with the same hand at a different table. I thank OMAR for providing both reports.
Charles Dickens wrote "A Tale of Two Cities". Posts 2082 and 2083 might be referred to as "A Tale of Two Travesties" - thanks to two different examples of glaring GIBBO ineptitude. GIBBO robots are hopeless in so many different ways.
Okay, so first here is what happened at OMAR's table. He writes "This hand scored 100 % for me. It was played 19 times in 4H and 10 times in 3H. I regretted bidding 4H as soon as I saw the dummy. However I was rescued by West and his compulsion to discard Spades, while neither defender would broach the club suit. I was the only table to register 11 tricks."
My comments:
1. Given that the robots theoretically play standard signals (although in reality they rarely signal, rarely watch or obey signals, and pretty much seem to play their cards randomly), the first two clubs that East pitches are the wrong ones.
2. West wins trick 5 with his diamond king, and then following the standard - and entirely I.D.I.O.T.I.C. - philosophy of the always braindead GIBBO robots, he of COURSE immediately returns a...DIAMOND, because these imbeciles are so incredibly stupid that they always think it's a terrific idea to return the suit that DECLARER just played.
3. East wins trick 6 with his diamond ace and, because he is as agonizingly hopeless as his imbecilic "partner" (and ALL GIBBO robots), he too immediately plays a third round of diamonds - the same suit that DECLARER had led. These two clowns obviously began the day with their regular breakfast: a huge, heaping, overflowing bowl of stupidity pills that they gleefully and ravenously gobbled up with gusto.
4. At tricks 8 and 9, West, as OMAR pointed out, showed his "compulsion to discard spades" - which was MONUMENTALLY stupid, given that he could SEE the spade length in dummy North. BUT...
5. West's LUDICROUS spade pitches would not have cost if his "partner" East had exhibited even a scintilla of intelligence, because after observing West's spade pitches, only a TOTAL M.O.R.O.N. would now pitch a spade from his remaining 107 doubleton, as that doubleton was OBVIOUSLY a guard against the K98 that were VISIBLE (!!!) in the dummy! East, a disgustingly useless and worthless GIBBO robot, stepped RIGHT up to the plate and TOSSED the spade 7 at trick nine! How is it even POSSIBLE for anyone or anything to be this BLINDINGLY stupid?
6. I have made this comment before, but it bears repeating. "GIB" is perhaps the biggest misnomer in the history of mankind, since it supposedly stands for "Ginsberg's Intelligent Bridgeplayer" (sic!), yet GIB is the LEAST intelligent thing I have ever seen. The "I", rather than standing for "Intelligent", would be infinitely more appropriate if it stood for: I.D.I.O.T.I.C., imbecilic, ignorant, irrational, inconsistent, inferior, insane, inane, insipid, incapable, inaccurate, irritating, indefensible, incompetent, imperfect, illogical, insufferable, inept, or infuriating.
7. These GIBBO witlings allowed declarer to take ELEVEN tricks despite the fact that they had FOUR TOP winners: the AK of both minors...AND...they could BOTH guard spades, but NEITHER of them did.
8. Frick and Frack were obviously HOPELESS on this hand, but as you will see in the following post, their fellow GIBBO robots, Johnny Halfwit and Donald J. Dumbo, were equally horrendous on the same board at a different table and in a different way. GIBBO robots are extremely creative at creating new SINS against the game of bridge.
9. Here's the link to what happened at OMAR's table, but stay tuned for the next post, where we'll look at the atrocity that occurred at another table.
https://www.bridgeba...CQ%7Cpc%7CCA%7C
Charles Dickens wrote "A Tale of Two Cities". Posts 2082 and 2083 might be referred to as "A Tale of Two Travesties" - thanks to two different examples of glaring GIBBO ineptitude. GIBBO robots are hopeless in so many different ways.
Okay, so first here is what happened at OMAR's table. He writes "This hand scored 100 % for me. It was played 19 times in 4H and 10 times in 3H. I regretted bidding 4H as soon as I saw the dummy. However I was rescued by West and his compulsion to discard Spades, while neither defender would broach the club suit. I was the only table to register 11 tricks."
My comments:
1. Given that the robots theoretically play standard signals (although in reality they rarely signal, rarely watch or obey signals, and pretty much seem to play their cards randomly), the first two clubs that East pitches are the wrong ones.
2. West wins trick 5 with his diamond king, and then following the standard - and entirely I.D.I.O.T.I.C. - philosophy of the always braindead GIBBO robots, he of COURSE immediately returns a...DIAMOND, because these imbeciles are so incredibly stupid that they always think it's a terrific idea to return the suit that DECLARER just played.
3. East wins trick 6 with his diamond ace and, because he is as agonizingly hopeless as his imbecilic "partner" (and ALL GIBBO robots), he too immediately plays a third round of diamonds - the same suit that DECLARER had led. These two clowns obviously began the day with their regular breakfast: a huge, heaping, overflowing bowl of stupidity pills that they gleefully and ravenously gobbled up with gusto.
4. At tricks 8 and 9, West, as OMAR pointed out, showed his "compulsion to discard spades" - which was MONUMENTALLY stupid, given that he could SEE the spade length in dummy North. BUT...
5. West's LUDICROUS spade pitches would not have cost if his "partner" East had exhibited even a scintilla of intelligence, because after observing West's spade pitches, only a TOTAL M.O.R.O.N. would now pitch a spade from his remaining 107 doubleton, as that doubleton was OBVIOUSLY a guard against the K98 that were VISIBLE (!!!) in the dummy! East, a disgustingly useless and worthless GIBBO robot, stepped RIGHT up to the plate and TOSSED the spade 7 at trick nine! How is it even POSSIBLE for anyone or anything to be this BLINDINGLY stupid?
6. I have made this comment before, but it bears repeating. "GIB" is perhaps the biggest misnomer in the history of mankind, since it supposedly stands for "Ginsberg's Intelligent Bridgeplayer" (sic!), yet GIB is the LEAST intelligent thing I have ever seen. The "I", rather than standing for "Intelligent", would be infinitely more appropriate if it stood for: I.D.I.O.T.I.C., imbecilic, ignorant, irrational, inconsistent, inferior, insane, inane, insipid, incapable, inaccurate, irritating, indefensible, incompetent, imperfect, illogical, insufferable, inept, or infuriating.
7. These GIBBO witlings allowed declarer to take ELEVEN tricks despite the fact that they had FOUR TOP winners: the AK of both minors...AND...they could BOTH guard spades, but NEITHER of them did.
8. Frick and Frack were obviously HOPELESS on this hand, but as you will see in the following post, their fellow GIBBO robots, Johnny Halfwit and Donald J. Dumbo, were equally horrendous on the same board at a different table and in a different way. GIBBO robots are extremely creative at creating new SINS against the game of bridge.
9. Here's the link to what happened at OMAR's table, but stay tuned for the next post, where we'll look at the atrocity that occurred at another table.
https://www.bridgeba...CQ%7Cpc%7CCA%7C
#2083
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Posted Yesterday, 09:29
Okay, here's the same hand but from another table. OMAR writes "Here is the play at the only table where ten tricks were made. The 'defence' here is also laughable. It was worth 96 % to the lucky human declarer who received this gift."
My comments:
1. East makes the same incorrect first club pitch as his counterpart did at OMAR's table...but his second club pitch is certifiably INSANE. His second club pitch - at trick THREE yet - is the...KING (!!!) of clubs! WHAT? WHY? I've seen leftover hamburger buns with more intelligence than Donald J. Dumbo exhibits here!
2. At trick five, West wins his diamond king, but SURPRISINGLY does not immediately return the suit. Progress? No, not quite! He cashes the club ace first, ENSURING that declarer's QUEEN now becomes a winner...and THEN at trick seven - having ESTABLISHED declarer's club queen, he of COURSE reverts to diamonds, the suit DECLARER had played.
3. East wins his diamond ace and plays his carefully preserved NINE of clubs to declarer's HIGH queen. Gee, I wonder if Halfwit and Dumbo could have done better in the club suit? Is it POSSIBLE that they could have taken TWO club tricks rather than one? What if East had kept his king of clubs (!)...OR...if EVEN after that INCREDIBLE early discard, West had NOT cashed his club ace (!!!)? By golly, yes, I think they COULD have taken TWO club tricks.
4. But by ALL means, o ye loyal defenders of and apologists for the GIBBO robots, I beseech you: Please, please, PLEASE remind me once again of how the GIBBO robots are "better than most human players". PLEASE remind me, because I keep forgetting that - ahem - "fact". While you're at it, o ye staunch defenders of GIBBO virtue, please remind me also: What colour cheese did you say the moon is made of?
https://www.bridgeba...S9%7Cpc%7CC8%7C
My comments:
1. East makes the same incorrect first club pitch as his counterpart did at OMAR's table...but his second club pitch is certifiably INSANE. His second club pitch - at trick THREE yet - is the...KING (!!!) of clubs! WHAT? WHY? I've seen leftover hamburger buns with more intelligence than Donald J. Dumbo exhibits here!
2. At trick five, West wins his diamond king, but SURPRISINGLY does not immediately return the suit. Progress? No, not quite! He cashes the club ace first, ENSURING that declarer's QUEEN now becomes a winner...and THEN at trick seven - having ESTABLISHED declarer's club queen, he of COURSE reverts to diamonds, the suit DECLARER had played.
3. East wins his diamond ace and plays his carefully preserved NINE of clubs to declarer's HIGH queen. Gee, I wonder if Halfwit and Dumbo could have done better in the club suit? Is it POSSIBLE that they could have taken TWO club tricks rather than one? What if East had kept his king of clubs (!)...OR...if EVEN after that INCREDIBLE early discard, West had NOT cashed his club ace (!!!)? By golly, yes, I think they COULD have taken TWO club tricks.
4. But by ALL means, o ye loyal defenders of and apologists for the GIBBO robots, I beseech you: Please, please, PLEASE remind me once again of how the GIBBO robots are "better than most human players". PLEASE remind me, because I keep forgetting that - ahem - "fact". While you're at it, o ye staunch defenders of GIBBO virtue, please remind me also: What colour cheese did you say the moon is made of?
https://www.bridgeba...S9%7Cpc%7CC8%7C
#2084
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Posted Yesterday, 16:27
North is white against red...and is sitting opposite a partner who preempted (!) in HEARTS, where North has FIVE cards himself. North is 2-5-1-5 (!) but he wouldn't DREAM of sacrificing in 5H because he feels he has FAR too much defence against 4S.
Yes, North is a GIBBO robot.
Yes, North is an imbecile.
Yes, North is one of the worst "bridge players" of all time.
Yes, ALL the GIBBO robots are incompetent and should be replaced by DECENT robots.
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Yes, North is a GIBBO robot.
Yes, North is an imbecile.
Yes, North is one of the worst "bridge players" of all time.
Yes, ALL the GIBBO robots are incompetent and should be replaced by DECENT robots.
https://tinyurl.brid...se.com/2p956k85
#2085
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Posted Yesterday, 17:04
East's 1D is defined by GIB as "Minor-suit opening...11-21 HCP...".
First, GIB DOES NOT HAVE TO TELL US THAT 1D IS A MINOR-SUIT OPENING!!!
Second, East does NOT have "11-21 HCP". He has ONLY 10. Now, if he chooses to open 1D, I have no objection, but since the GIBBO robots DO open such hands, then DISHONEST DEFINITIONS such as this are inexcusable! It's bad enough that the GIB definitions are SO often nothing but pathetic pieces of garbage that do not accurately and fully explain what NEEDS to be explained (while at the same time including useless, offensive drivel such as "minor-suit opening"), but it would be nice if the definitions could at least be HONEST!
Later in the auction, East...DOUBLES 3S! This is defined as "3+ diamonds; 2+ spades; 12+ HCP; 12- total points; forcing".
First, please note that GIB's IGNORANCE about "total" points is AGAIN exposed, as it SO often is. Second, please note that definition is basically useless, as it says NOTHING of importance about his shape, his strength, or his diamond length. Third, please note that it doesn't even say what the double is supposed to be: penalty, takeout, "cards", DSI - who KNOWS (?) because the useless definition does not answer that basic, crucial question! Fourth, please note that the double is described as "forcing", yet West then PASSES...with only TWO spades! Fifth, please note that East does NOT have "12+ HCP". He has a MERE TEN and he ALREADY opened the bidding (!) with that MERE TEN even thopugh THAT bid of 1D supposedly PROMISED "11-21 HCP". He's doubling at the THREE level, presumably showing extras (although the astoundingly pathetic GIB definition does not explicitly state that or much of ANYTHING else), and not only does he NOT have extras, but he doesn't EVEN have what he "promised" at the start of the hand! Sixth, please note that he does NOT have the "2+ spades" that the definition claims - he has only one.
The double is a joke. The definition is a joke. Why is this IMBECILE doubling here? Why is the definition such garbage? Why can't the braindead GIBBO robot even FOLLOW his own (admittedly USELESS) GIB definitions?
Why does West PASS the double...that was described as "forcing" (!)... with his DOUBLETON spade?
Biggest and best question of all: Why is BBO still shaming itself by having these HORRENDOUS robots contaminating its otherwise fine bridge site?
GREAT "judgment" by these two GIBBO twits, BTW. They doubled 3S and "held" it to "only" one overtrick! It's time to take out the trash, and GIBBO IS the trash!
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First, GIB DOES NOT HAVE TO TELL US THAT 1D IS A MINOR-SUIT OPENING!!!
Second, East does NOT have "11-21 HCP". He has ONLY 10. Now, if he chooses to open 1D, I have no objection, but since the GIBBO robots DO open such hands, then DISHONEST DEFINITIONS such as this are inexcusable! It's bad enough that the GIB definitions are SO often nothing but pathetic pieces of garbage that do not accurately and fully explain what NEEDS to be explained (while at the same time including useless, offensive drivel such as "minor-suit opening"), but it would be nice if the definitions could at least be HONEST!
Later in the auction, East...DOUBLES 3S! This is defined as "3+ diamonds; 2+ spades; 12+ HCP; 12- total points; forcing".
First, please note that GIB's IGNORANCE about "total" points is AGAIN exposed, as it SO often is. Second, please note that definition is basically useless, as it says NOTHING of importance about his shape, his strength, or his diamond length. Third, please note that it doesn't even say what the double is supposed to be: penalty, takeout, "cards", DSI - who KNOWS (?) because the useless definition does not answer that basic, crucial question! Fourth, please note that the double is described as "forcing", yet West then PASSES...with only TWO spades! Fifth, please note that East does NOT have "12+ HCP". He has a MERE TEN and he ALREADY opened the bidding (!) with that MERE TEN even thopugh THAT bid of 1D supposedly PROMISED "11-21 HCP". He's doubling at the THREE level, presumably showing extras (although the astoundingly pathetic GIB definition does not explicitly state that or much of ANYTHING else), and not only does he NOT have extras, but he doesn't EVEN have what he "promised" at the start of the hand! Sixth, please note that he does NOT have the "2+ spades" that the definition claims - he has only one.
The double is a joke. The definition is a joke. Why is this IMBECILE doubling here? Why is the definition such garbage? Why can't the braindead GIBBO robot even FOLLOW his own (admittedly USELESS) GIB definitions?
Why does West PASS the double...that was described as "forcing" (!)... with his DOUBLETON spade?
Biggest and best question of all: Why is BBO still shaming itself by having these HORRENDOUS robots contaminating its otherwise fine bridge site?
GREAT "judgment" by these two GIBBO twits, BTW. They doubled 3S and "held" it to "only" one overtrick! It's time to take out the trash, and GIBBO IS the trash!
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#2086
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Posted Today, 02:39
I could do this every day.
Let me join in with the development of the bots, with Claude Code and an explanation of what it does wrong and I would make massive improvements. The biggest grey area I see is the ability to get involved in competitive bidding. To do this effectively, GIBBO must understand the vulnerability on the board and the difference between IMPs and MP. I have no idea if it does, but obviously you are far more aggressive green at MP than red at IMPs. (In part-score bidding, your most aggressive should be both players non-vulnerable, when defending and taking a small penalty is inadequate against what you might make yourself).
GIBBO must also understand when their partner is simply competing and not punish partner for doing so by raising to the roof, or making a jump in response to a balancing double (particularly when it doesn't even have a long suit). It needs to know when it has expressed its hand and when it hasn't. When it has massive shape it hasn't shown. That "shows 5+": partner won't expect you to have 7 or 8 of them unless you bid them again or higher.
And to be honest I am really not into the "doesn't show 6" in a sequence like 1H-2D-2H (a bidding sequence that led to me getting a terrible score yesterday). With a minimum opening hand with only 5 hearts and no diamond support, just bid 2NT. If you have 5 clubs, bid 3C, even if weak, I'd rather know the shape with a comment "doesn't show extra values" after which 3S by responder means "are you stopping spades?" and you'll probably get to a reasonable place.
Let me join in with the development of the bots, with Claude Code and an explanation of what it does wrong and I would make massive improvements. The biggest grey area I see is the ability to get involved in competitive bidding. To do this effectively, GIBBO must understand the vulnerability on the board and the difference between IMPs and MP. I have no idea if it does, but obviously you are far more aggressive green at MP than red at IMPs. (In part-score bidding, your most aggressive should be both players non-vulnerable, when defending and taking a small penalty is inadequate against what you might make yourself).
GIBBO must also understand when their partner is simply competing and not punish partner for doing so by raising to the roof, or making a jump in response to a balancing double (particularly when it doesn't even have a long suit). It needs to know when it has expressed its hand and when it hasn't. When it has massive shape it hasn't shown. That "shows 5+": partner won't expect you to have 7 or 8 of them unless you bid them again or higher.
And to be honest I am really not into the "doesn't show 6" in a sequence like 1H-2D-2H (a bidding sequence that led to me getting a terrible score yesterday). With a minimum opening hand with only 5 hearts and no diamond support, just bid 2NT. If you have 5 clubs, bid 3C, even if weak, I'd rather know the shape with a comment "doesn't show extra values" after which 3S by responder means "are you stopping spades?" and you'll probably get to a reasonable place.
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#2088
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Posted Today, 11:49
This is a MANDATED auction with all bids made by GIBBO. Silly GIB definition of 4S, and as is SO often the case, the GIBBO robot doesn't follow his own GIB definition. His 4S bid in itself is also questionable.
https://www.bridgeba...CJ%7Cmc%7C10%7C
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#2089
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Posted Today, 11:53
Remarkably stupid lead of the singleton heart. I thought Lorserker corrected this nonsensical type of lead that used to be a FAVOURITE of the execrable immediate predecessors of GIBBO, the hopeless GIB robots. So why is West making this boneheaded lead here?
https://www.bridgeba...DQ%7Cpc%7CST%7C
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#2090
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Posted Today, 12:01
I see West's shape.
I also see that he is red against white, that his partner couldn't even scrape up a response to his 1H opening, and that he doesn't have much more than a minimum opening bid, so why is he doubling?
And why is he making a typically foolish lead of his stiff trump?
Answer to BOTH questions: Because he's a GIBBO robot, so he hasn't got a CLUE about ANYTHING bridge-related.
https://www.bridgeba...CHQ%7Cmc%7C9%7C
I also see that he is red against white, that his partner couldn't even scrape up a response to his 1H opening, and that he doesn't have much more than a minimum opening bid, so why is he doubling?
And why is he making a typically foolish lead of his stiff trump?
Answer to BOTH questions: Because he's a GIBBO robot, so he hasn't got a CLUE about ANYTHING bridge-related.
https://www.bridgeba...CHQ%7Cmc%7C9%7C
#2091
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Posted Today, 12:08
Mandated auction, mandated lead. The board was played 86 times. 84 times, including at my table, the hand was down two. The other two times it was down three.
GIBBO obviously thinks 4H is a good call, which we can add to the hundreds or thousands of other hands that show GIBBO has no idea how to bid. Leaping to 4H on this FLAT 3-5-3-2 hand, with 8 decent HCP, both vul, is NOT a clever bid. That makes sense because - LORD knows (!) GIBBO is NOT a good bridge player!
https://www.bridgeba...CS6%7Cmc%7C8%7C
GIBBO obviously thinks 4H is a good call, which we can add to the hundreds or thousands of other hands that show GIBBO has no idea how to bid. Leaping to 4H on this FLAT 3-5-3-2 hand, with 8 decent HCP, both vul, is NOT a clever bid. That makes sense because - LORD knows (!) GIBBO is NOT a good bridge player!
https://www.bridgeba...CS6%7Cmc%7C8%7C
#2092
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Posted Today, 12:21
Stupid, swinging from the rafters lead. The dipstick got his club ruff (wowee zowee)...at the cost of giving declarer the suit AND never scoring even a single diamond trick. What a loser - just like all his GIBBO brothers and sisters.
Speaking of his GIBBO brothers and sisters ALSO being losers, note that on this very hand, at trick four when Donald J. Dumbo gives Johnny Halfwit his club ruff, Donnie STUPIDLY (what else?) leads his SEVEN of clubs from his remaining 97 doubleton even though he is LOOKING AT (!) the stiff EIGHT of clubs in the dummy! If you TRIED to create a STUPIDER robot than GIBBO, you would have a very, VERY, VERY challenging task! GIBBO robots are absolutely pathetic. They should be euthanized and replaced with robots that at least have SOME clue.
https://www.bridgeba...HQ%7Cpc%7CSK%7C
Speaking of his GIBBO brothers and sisters ALSO being losers, note that on this very hand, at trick four when Donald J. Dumbo gives Johnny Halfwit his club ruff, Donnie STUPIDLY (what else?) leads his SEVEN of clubs from his remaining 97 doubleton even though he is LOOKING AT (!) the stiff EIGHT of clubs in the dummy! If you TRIED to create a STUPIDER robot than GIBBO, you would have a very, VERY, VERY challenging task! GIBBO robots are absolutely pathetic. They should be euthanized and replaced with robots that at least have SOME clue.
https://www.bridgeba...HQ%7Cpc%7CSK%7C
#2093
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Posted Today, 12:49
Mandated auction, which means that GIBBO decreed all the bids and thinks they are perfect. GIBBO, of course, is trash.
Look at South's double of 3S. Why is he doubling? What does it show? Well, here's the GIB definition: "3+ diamonds; 13-21 HCP; 14-22 total points; forcing." Didn't we ALREADY know pretty much ALL of that when he earlier opened 1D? It tells us NOTHING new, NOTHING specific (e.g.: "13-21 HCP" is a RIDICULOUSLY wide range of NINE points, which is so vague that it's USELESS), and NOTHING useful. His HAND itself is NOTHING special. Why doesn't he just pass, since he currently has NOTHING to add to the story he ALREADY told with his opening bid? You know, GIBBO, maybe "double" should actually have a USEFUL meaning. Maybe that would be a TINY step towards making your disgusting GIBBO robots less WORTHLESS than they are.
Is North's 4D forcing? Who KNOWS, because the typically pathetic GIB definition doesn't even answer that basic, obvious, simple, essential question, and it just gives a typically vague and useless description ("4+ diamonds; 11+ total points"). Is there anyone who thinks GIB gives GOOD definitions? If so, they have my SINCERE sympathy!
If 4D was NOT forcing, then why would South raise to five with his relative minimum? Note that the definition of his 5D is useless also.
Sadly, BBO players have to witness this type of nonsense hand after hand, game after game, day after day, month after month, year after year...and will have to continue doing so unless and until these GIBBO monstrosities are sent to a robot cemetery and replaced with DECENT robots.
https://www.bridgeba...H8%7Cmc%7C11%7C
Look at South's double of 3S. Why is he doubling? What does it show? Well, here's the GIB definition: "3+ diamonds; 13-21 HCP; 14-22 total points; forcing." Didn't we ALREADY know pretty much ALL of that when he earlier opened 1D? It tells us NOTHING new, NOTHING specific (e.g.: "13-21 HCP" is a RIDICULOUSLY wide range of NINE points, which is so vague that it's USELESS), and NOTHING useful. His HAND itself is NOTHING special. Why doesn't he just pass, since he currently has NOTHING to add to the story he ALREADY told with his opening bid? You know, GIBBO, maybe "double" should actually have a USEFUL meaning. Maybe that would be a TINY step towards making your disgusting GIBBO robots less WORTHLESS than they are.
Is North's 4D forcing? Who KNOWS, because the typically pathetic GIB definition doesn't even answer that basic, obvious, simple, essential question, and it just gives a typically vague and useless description ("4+ diamonds; 11+ total points"). Is there anyone who thinks GIB gives GOOD definitions? If so, they have my SINCERE sympathy!
If 4D was NOT forcing, then why would South raise to five with his relative minimum? Note that the definition of his 5D is useless also.
Sadly, BBO players have to witness this type of nonsense hand after hand, game after game, day after day, month after month, year after year...and will have to continue doing so unless and until these GIBBO monstrosities are sent to a robot cemetery and replaced with DECENT robots.
https://www.bridgeba...H8%7Cmc%7C11%7C
#2094
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Posted Today, 12:53
Another GIBBO joke of an auction: Why are these East-West dweebs 'defending" 2H doubled instead of bidding 3C?
Better question: Why are GIBBO robots even ALLOWED anywhere NEAR a bridge game?
https://www.bridgeba...CD5%7Cmc%7C9%7C
Better question: Why are GIBBO robots even ALLOWED anywhere NEAR a bridge game?
https://www.bridgeba...CD5%7Cmc%7C9%7C
#2095
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Posted Today, 13:16
Another MANDATED auction. Another INDICTMENT of GIBBO's worthless, antiquated system and complete LACK of ability.
GIBBO's entire system stinks but one of its worst aspects is its OUTSTANDINGLY bad 2C structure, and one of the worst aspects of that ALREADY heinous 2C structure is its I.D.I.O.T.I.C. use of the 2NT response to 2C. In previous posts, I've explained in detail the NUMEROUS reasons that this is TRULY imbecilic, so I'm not going to do it again here, but I will briefly point out just ONE thing from the linked hand that - all by itself - shows that the system is WORTHLESS garbage.
In response to North's 2C opening, GIBBO mandates the M.O.R.O.N.I.C. 2NT response by South. North bids 3H and GIBBO then MANDATES South's 3NT call, which is defined by GIB as showing "8-13 HCP"...a ludicrously BROAD range of SIX points. North...PASSES...3NT with his...TWENTY-THREE HCP. Well, bravo, because on THIS random hand, it's "right", since South has "only" 9 HCP, NS are off two aces, and they can make "only" the obvious 11 tricks. But on MANY other random hands, South would have TEN HCP...or maybe ELEVEN...or TWELVE...or even THIRTEEN...and OFTEN a cold slam (sometimes even a grand) would be missed...for NO other reason than GIBBO's totally HOPELESS 2C system and ESPECIALLY its PUTRID use of the 2NT response.
GIBBO stinks.
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GIBBO's entire system stinks but one of its worst aspects is its OUTSTANDINGLY bad 2C structure, and one of the worst aspects of that ALREADY heinous 2C structure is its I.D.I.O.T.I.C. use of the 2NT response to 2C. In previous posts, I've explained in detail the NUMEROUS reasons that this is TRULY imbecilic, so I'm not going to do it again here, but I will briefly point out just ONE thing from the linked hand that - all by itself - shows that the system is WORTHLESS garbage.
In response to North's 2C opening, GIBBO mandates the M.O.R.O.N.I.C. 2NT response by South. North bids 3H and GIBBO then MANDATES South's 3NT call, which is defined by GIB as showing "8-13 HCP"...a ludicrously BROAD range of SIX points. North...PASSES...3NT with his...TWENTY-THREE HCP. Well, bravo, because on THIS random hand, it's "right", since South has "only" 9 HCP, NS are off two aces, and they can make "only" the obvious 11 tricks. But on MANY other random hands, South would have TEN HCP...or maybe ELEVEN...or TWELVE...or even THIRTEEN...and OFTEN a cold slam (sometimes even a grand) would be missed...for NO other reason than GIBBO's totally HOPELESS 2C system and ESPECIALLY its PUTRID use of the 2NT response.
GIBBO stinks.
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#2096
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Posted Today, 13:37
If East had NOT opened 1C and later bid 3C, I am quite confident that West would have led the club 4 against 3S doubled, because these ignorant GIBBO clowns stupidly LOVE leading worthless doubletons.
But... East DID open 1C and DID later bid 3C, so now West would never even DREAM of leading a club, because like ALL of his cursed, repulsive "family" of GIBBO robots, he HATES leading his PARTNER'S suit. So, he pushed out a heart, which did not work out well.
At trick three, he belatedly played a club, which of COURSE was now the WRONG suit to play...and the clueless buffoon could not even manage to play the CORRECT club. A chimpanzee would have had a 50 % chance of playing the correct club, but the task proved to be FAR too difficult for "Ginsberg's INTELLIGENT Bridgeplayer" (sic!) "Intelligent"? "Intelligent"???!!! A GIBBO robot is one of the LEAST "intelligent: things I have EVER seen...and that INCLUDES rocks, seashells, and amoebas! The GIBBO robot led the FOUR of clubs from...FOUR-DEUCE DOUBLETON.
Later, at trick seven, the same GIBBO GENIUS in the West stupidly FAILED to cover the jack of hearts, and that really cost.
Why are these GIBBO monstrosities not rusting at the bottom of the ocean...or decaying in a landfill...or sitting under a hundred thousand tons of other discarded trash in a scrapyard? Why are they STILL here on BBO bringing shame to an otherwise fine bridge site?
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But... East DID open 1C and DID later bid 3C, so now West would never even DREAM of leading a club, because like ALL of his cursed, repulsive "family" of GIBBO robots, he HATES leading his PARTNER'S suit. So, he pushed out a heart, which did not work out well.
At trick three, he belatedly played a club, which of COURSE was now the WRONG suit to play...and the clueless buffoon could not even manage to play the CORRECT club. A chimpanzee would have had a 50 % chance of playing the correct club, but the task proved to be FAR too difficult for "Ginsberg's INTELLIGENT Bridgeplayer" (sic!) "Intelligent"? "Intelligent"???!!! A GIBBO robot is one of the LEAST "intelligent: things I have EVER seen...and that INCLUDES rocks, seashells, and amoebas! The GIBBO robot led the FOUR of clubs from...FOUR-DEUCE DOUBLETON.
Later, at trick seven, the same GIBBO GENIUS in the West stupidly FAILED to cover the jack of hearts, and that really cost.
Why are these GIBBO monstrosities not rusting at the bottom of the ocean...or decaying in a landfill...or sitting under a hundred thousand tons of other discarded trash in a scrapyard? Why are they STILL here on BBO bringing shame to an otherwise fine bridge site?
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#2097
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Posted Today, 13:46
I made 4H for a multi-shared top of 78.79 %, so I'm not complaining about the result, but I think North's LEAP...to FOUR HEARTS was typical GIBBO stupidity on the 53 doubleton, and I also think we would have reached 4H anyway if he had bid sanely.
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