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responding to overcall

Poll: Your call? (28 member(s) have cast votes)

What's your call

  1. Pass (20 votes [71.43%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 71.43%

  2. 2D (6 votes [21.43%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 21.43%

  3. 2H (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  4. 2S (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  5. 2NT (1 votes [3.57%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 3.57%

  6. 3C (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  7. Abstain, would have opened. (1 votes [3.57%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 3.57%

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Posted 2011-January-10, 05:30

Part 2: since I bid, over 2♥ I'd try 2NT now.
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Posted 2011-January-10, 05:31

whereagles I know that stoppers are completely useless, but what suit do you think they will lead here? :( how will the play go?
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Posted 2011-January-10, 06:02

Well, I know you're right but what can I bid? I've already lied in a card with 2♦. Ain't gonna lie a second time by bidding spades with 3 only B) I guess you could say I should have passed 2♣ but I didn't.

But there's one thing going for the 2NT bid: unless LHO has ♥AKQJT (with which he could have bid 2♥), it's likely there's some sort of blockage in the heart suit.
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Posted 2011-January-10, 06:31

Pass again over 2♠. Penalty doubling would be very random.

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But there's one thing going for the 2NT bid: unless LHO has ♥AKQJT (with which he could have bid 2♥), it's likely there's some sort of blockage in the heart suit.

The layout could be:
Partner Ax, 98, xxxx, AKQJT
North ♥HHHH6

and we have 3NT making thanks to ♥7.
That would be fun, but actually playing for it pretty crazy. :)
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Posted 2011-January-10, 08:43

partner seems to be 3136, I am starting to regret bidding 2♦ but can't give up now so I just bid 3♣
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Posted 2011-January-11, 18:05

so what happened??
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Posted 2011-January-12, 14:43



3D went -1. At the other table, North passed throughout and 2S made so I gained 2 imps. Not very exciting really :).
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Posted 2011-January-12, 15:07

all hail the passers. they got this one right :)

actually.. wait. I think 2NT makes as well LOL
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Posted 2011-January-12, 15:48

Awesome. Respond in a four card suit, and follow it up with a 3 card suit...

I'd have to say that if I did bid 2♦, I would at least retreat to 3♣.
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Posted 2011-January-12, 18:51

I also don't get 2♥. What's wrong with 3♦?
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Posted 2011-January-12, 18:59

Heart 7 was a stopper, if only partner also had 7 tricks whereagles would be a genius!
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Posted 2011-January-13, 04:27

Well, he has 6 and will pass 2NT since he has min. I make that for +120. Howzdat for a genius? :rolleyes:
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Posted 2011-January-13, 05:33

whereagles not long ago you overcalled with 6 points, so is AKJ98x and 13 points really a minimum for you?
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Posted 2011-January-13, 08:08

huh..? Are you talking about hcp(west)>6 in the other thread?
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Posted 2011-January-13, 08:13

Yes, obviously different circumstances, but this definitely looks like an accept to me.
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Posted 2011-January-13, 10:22

Well, circumstances make quite a difference. In the other thread I put overcaller with as little as 7 hcp because some people bid on lousy hands.

In my book overcalls normally range from 8 to 17, so this ranks as a "good min". Not sure I'd accept and bid 3NT. Especially since responder steered away from clubs and my suit isn't that hot without some fillers. But yeah, bidding 3NT certainly wouldn't be too far-fetched.
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Posted 2011-January-17, 04:02

View Postwhereagles, on 2011-January-13, 10:22, said:

....my suit isn't that hot without some fillers.



AKJ986 is now a "not hot suit that needs fillers"? I guess you and I have very different definitions of that, I would expect to bring this home for 1 loser opposite a singleton the majority of the time.
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Posted 2011-January-17, 04:38

Pass both times. Not that hard.
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