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#1 Cascade

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Posted 2009-May-19, 19:25

Scoring: MP

(3♠) ?

Supplementary question:

Would you act differently under some different condition (but still over 1st seat 3♠) - change the vulnerability or method of scoring?

Edited mistype - the opening is definitely 3♠

This post has been edited by Cascade: 2009-May-19, 19:30

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Posted 2009-May-19, 19:30

Probablt sick and minority, but I feel like I have to. Stiff spade and all. Double, planning ELC 4♦ over 4♣.

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Posted 2009-May-19, 19:34

First rule of matchpoints, never, ever, volunteer for a minus score when you have some reasonable possibilities of a plus score. Easy pass.

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Posted 2009-May-19, 19:38

Agree with Curt. Very easy pass at any form of scoring.

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Posted 2009-May-19, 20:02

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Posted 2009-May-19, 20:24

I would pass.

The singleton spade very much makes me want to bid, but the rest of the hand is not so good. If we have a game, partner will often be able to act - e.g. bidding 3NT with his balanced 15 in passout seat.

But I am not sure why anyone can confidently expect 3♠ to go down.

That's impossible. No one can give more than one hundred percent. By definition that is the most anyone can give.

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Posted 2009-May-19, 20:28

I would double and I don't think it's all that sick, especially white all at MP.

Passing 4♣ of course.

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Posted 2009-May-19, 20:50

Easy pass, and I think it is obvious.

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Posted 2009-May-19, 23:41

Easy pass, and I know it is obvious.

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Posted 2009-May-20, 02:00

Funnily the last time such a hand came uup anybody said: You have to act with shortness to protect partner.

Partner with say Axx,AQx,Kxx,QJx may not be able to bid 3 NT after we passed, so passing is far from obvious to me- we may miss even a slam while defending 3 Spade.

But I guess that the majority at the club would act as the majority here (a seldom event) and pass. So I do not need to take a top/bottom descission on this hand and pass too.

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Posted 2009-May-20, 03:23

I would be more worried about having insufficient strength than about not having 4♥... Pass.

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Posted 2009-May-20, 03:59

Codo, on May 20 2009, 09:00 AM, said:

After 3♠-pass-pass, 3NT is automatic with that hand. It's true that a hand with short spades should strain to act, but a hand with 16HCP doesn't need any protection.

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Posted 2009-May-20, 05:04

gnasher, on May 20 2009, 06:59 PM, said:

Codo, on May 20 2009, 09:00 AM, said:

After 3♠-pass-pass, 3NT is automatic with that hand. It's true that a hand with short spades should strain to act, but a hand with 16HCP doesn't need any protection.

The 16 HCPS may result in up 13 tricks .... so maybe a hand like

xxx,AQx,Kxx,QJx
Axx,Qxx,Kxx,QJx
Axx,AQx,xxx,QJx

etc....

may need your protection....

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Posted 2009-May-20, 05:19

Hearts, schmearts. Double. Obviously going to pass 4♣.

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Posted 2009-May-20, 06:15

At Mp's with no-one vulnerable, I might conjure up a double. Any other scoring or vulnerabilety, and I pass easily.

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Posted 2009-May-20, 06:32

Pass obv.

6331 is one of my favourite shapes, because, IMO, many bridge players (typically adv-experts) tend to overbid with this shape (probably psychological reasons). 3-3 so many times turns out to really bad combination. There also might be problem to get rid of partners spade losers in likely 4♣-4♥.

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Posted 2009-May-20, 06:33

I would double. The person with shortage needs to act. That means ME.

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Posted 2009-May-20, 10:02

Anything but pass is sick.

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Posted 2009-May-20, 11:11

Easy pass.

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Posted 2009-May-20, 14:57

Cascade, on May 20 2009, 01:25 PM, said:

Scoring: MP

(3♠) ?

If you pass the auction continues:

(3♠) Pass (4♠) Pass;
(Pass) ?

I assume we are still passing?

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