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Pre-empt & if so how high?

Poll: Pre-empt & if so how high? (51 member(s) have cast votes)

What do you bid?

  1. Pass (7 votes [13.73%])

    Percentage of vote: 13.73%

  2. 2 [spades] (1 votes [1.96%])

    Percentage of vote: 1.96%

  3. 3 [spades] (25 votes [49.02%])

    Percentage of vote: 49.02%

  4. 4 [spades] (16 votes [31.37%])

    Percentage of vote: 31.37%

  5. other (please state) (2 votes [3.92%])

    Percentage of vote: 3.92%

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#1 User is offline   TMorris 

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Posted 2014-January-27, 10:03

You are in 2nd seat after a Pass non-vul v vul at IMPs. You have

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Posted 2014-January-27, 10:45

3 seems about right
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Posted 2014-January-27, 11:01

But we may lose the diamond suit! ;-)
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Posted 2014-January-27, 11:08

I see this as about a 3.49999 call but wouldn't argue with anyone who sees it a little more aggressively :P

I really doubt that partner will play me for such a good playing hand at favourable, so I am itching to bid 4. I would definitely do so in 1st or 3rd, but being in 2nd causes me to pull back in just a tad and opt for the conservative 3 call. 7141 is not in the same family as, say, 7231 or 7132.
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Posted 2014-January-27, 11:24

gut instinct is 4S
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Posted 2014-January-27, 11:34

suit quality bad, 7-4 good, so just 3 spades.
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Posted 2014-January-27, 12:03

I prefer 3S due to the suit quality.

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Posted 2014-January-27, 12:52

4 form at this vul without great conviction.
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Posted 2014-January-27, 15:58

There is only one big surprise here ---someone else passed. I also considered 1S, but the NBO probably has no sense of humor. Missing the #2 straight flush in my suit and holding 2nd-round control of the other three somehow doesn't feel right for a 3 or 4-bid, and it is the highest suit.
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Posted 2014-January-27, 20:54

I would like bid 2!
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Posted 2014-January-30, 07:08

Wow I did not expect any votes at all for 2 or 3. Seemed like a 4 or pass hand for me, with my preference for the aggressive action.
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Posted 2014-January-30, 08:35

4S. I'm never bidding 2S, and the 7-4 + w/r IMP bumps this to a 4S for me.
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Posted 2014-January-30, 10:48

I would bid 4 and fasten my seat belt.

3 is fine for me, 2 or pass is not.
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Posted 2014-January-30, 11:00

Like aguahombre, I am curious about the merit of 1S here.

If we preempt I prefer 3S, even W/R.


If partner does have values 1S seems by far the most constructive and we have a much better chance of evaluating NT and diamonds.
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Posted 2014-January-30, 16:40

View Postmonikrazy, on 2014-January-30, 11:00, said:

Like aguahombre, I am curious about the merit of 1S here.

I think I know the relative merit of 1S, my caveat was about irritating the TD's.
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Posted 2014-January-30, 18:06

4S. Seriously someone suggested 2S? Rofl.
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Posted 2014-January-30, 18:13

Heads I bid 3, tails I bid 4. The coin landed on heads so I voted 3 noting my lousy suit, but I won't be happy if the opps get to 4but maybe with one of them passed, it won't happen or they can't make it due to a 4-1 split.
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Posted 2014-January-30, 18:15

3. Can't stomach 4 on such a bad suit.
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Posted 2014-January-30, 18:27

This is a 3.5 opening, but since this is not legal, I go aggressive with the 7-4 shape and choose 4. 3 is reasonable though not to my taste. 2 is worse than passing.
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Posted 2014-January-30, 18:50

I've been becoming more conservative of late, 3S. I think the real deciding factor is whether or not we are content defending 4H. I think we have plenty of chances to beat it.
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